2012 Draft - Who do you like?

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  • stefoid
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2009
    • 1846

    #31
    Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

    Originally posted by Superdog
    I hope to all heaven someone is working on Jon Patton's agent. If he digs his heels in to come home at the end of 2013 I'd love to reverse the cornholing we copped for Ward. Sadly, we may well be in box seat to trade him out of there based on the back end of this year. Mayes, Stringer and next year Patton in exchange for 2013's #1 or #2 might get us back quickly.
    yes but will we be able to fit Patton and Hogan in the same forward line?

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    • westdog54
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6686

      #32
      Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

      Pretty sure Melbourne have activated a compo pick which will leave us with 5 and 6.

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      • Sockeye Salmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6365

        #33
        Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Tony McGuinness clone
        That's exactly what I thought.

        I was a bit disappointed with what I saw of Simpson. I thought Gartlett was a long way ahead of him (but then I've only seen them twice).

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        • westdog54
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6686

          #34
          Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

          Originally posted by Superdog
          I hope to all heaven someone is working on Jon Patton's agent. If he digs his heels in to come home at the end of 2013 I'd love to reverse the cornholing we copped for Ward. Sadly, we may well be in box seat to trade him out of there based on the back end of this year. Mayes, Stringer and next year Patton in exchange for 2013's #1 or #2 might get us back quickly.
          To be frank, I don't think next year's Pick #1 will get the job done to get Patton

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          • Redemption97

            #35
            Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

            Based on the limited I know of this years draft I'm liking the sounds of Menzel (SA) and Stringer (Vic). Risky I know in terms of their body concerns but the pay off could be the gravy our side is sorely lacking. Strong kids with x factor and potential to be high output players who can influence games. Both can play as mids and can hit the scoreboard as forwards.

            I'm thinking of what we know of Macca and I'm guessing he'd find it hard to not consider the likes of Wines. Strong inside mid who mauls in the contest and can spread. Victorian boy as well. Worries me a little as he sounds like a better version of a few of our other mids. I guess an upgrade is an upgrade.

            Mayes sounds good too. Great foot skills but I worry that he has played mostly as a forward and a little in the middle. South Australian too who we've got good history of retaining but there is always that risk. He can hit the scoreboard and those who claim to be in the know say he has the right mix of pace and one of the best kicks in the draft to become a high production midfielder.

            I'm really intrigued how we'll go in this draft. We as supporters want quick outside mids who are elite kicks but the club just needs to get the best players at our picks. Quality is quality and let's face it we just need to add guns at every line. If we went Grundy who is a ruck or Plowman who is a key rebounding back with one of our first picks (5 or 6) don't be surprised. Haha I can already see the carry on if we get another Ruck.

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            • Greystache
              WOOF Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              #36
              Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

              Would Stringer at pick 5 be as good as Hogan for pick 5 and Grant?
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              • Redemption97

                #37
                Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                Originally posted by Greystache
                Would Stringer at pick 5 be as good as Hogan for pick 5 and Grant?
                That's a risky call either way. Hogans is 17 and by all accounts has has shown great potential as a key position forward. Stringer exploded as a 17 year old and prior to breaking the leg was in poll position to go as number one in the draft. Both are risks. Also Grant finally getting his act together is also a risk if we trade him out.

                Personally I'd rather keep Grant and draft a player who will play next year rather than wait 12 months for a 17 year old from Perth.

                Also we are likely to have some good picks next year as I can't see us improving much on this years result given the amount of young blokes on our list who'll Macca will want to develop next season. There will be other key position forwards up for grabs in other years maybe even Hogan

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                • Missing Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8501

                  #38
                  Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                  Originally posted by Greystache
                  Would Stringer at pick 5 be as good as Hogan for pick 5 and Grant?
                  Why would we have to give up pick 5 and Grant for Hogan? Are GC or Melbourne interested?

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                  • Greystache
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    #39
                    Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                    Originally posted by bulldogsman
                    Why would we have to give up pick 5 and Grant for Hogan? Are GC or Melbourne interested?
                    All the talk is that they are but who knows if there's any substance behind that. If we could get him in the mini draft for pick 5 without the sweetener that seems preferable to me than going for Stringer at 5.
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                    • Redemption97

                      #40
                      Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      All the talk is that they are but who knows if there's any substance behind that. If we could get him in the mini draft for pick 5 without the sweetener that seems preferable to me than going for Stringer at 5.
                      What is it about Hogan that makes you think that would be a good trade?

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                      • Greystache
                        WOOF Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9775

                        #41
                        Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                        Originally posted by Redemption97
                        What is it about Hogan that makes you think that would be a good trade?
                        He showed a lot in the championships, if he replicated that next year he could be pick 1 .He's not also not that awkward 191cm in between size like Stringer and hasn't had the injury concern Stinger has.
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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7474

                          #42
                          Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                          Originally posted by Redemption97
                          What is it about Hogan that makes you think that would be a good trade?
                          Whoever gets the best player wins a trade.

                          If we get Hogan - no matter WHAT we give up - we win the trade.

                          What is it about him? The fact that he is a 191cm key position forward who will jump at a contest from 5 back even if he is NO CHANCE of marking it. He likes contact and likes hurting people. He plays angry.
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • Greystache
                            WOOF Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            #43
                            Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            Whoever gets the best player wins a trade.

                            If we get Hogan - no matter WHAT we give up - we win the trade.

                            What is it about him? The fact that he is a 191cm key position forward who will jump at a contest from 5 back even if he is NO CHANCE of marking it. He likes contact and likes hurting people. He plays angry.
                            Is he really only 191cm? I've seen him listed at 193cm and 194cm, but some player profiles aren't to be trusted.
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                            • mjp
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7474

                              #44
                              Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                              Originally posted by Greystache
                              Is he really only 191cm? I've seen him listed at 193cm and 194cm, but some player profiles aren't to be trusted.
                              That is my recollection.

                              Darling is only 190cm. Fevola 191cm. It doesn't matter. If you jump at the ball hard and take it at the highest point - with your left knee collecting one opponent and your right knee connecting with another - 191cm is plenty big enough.
                              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                              • Redemption97

                                #45
                                Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                                Originally posted by mjp
                                Whoever gets the best player wins a trade.

                                If we get Hogan - no matter WHAT we give up - we win the trade.

                                What is it about him? The fact that he is a 191cm key position forward who will jump at a contest from 5 back even if he is NO CHANCE of marking it. He likes contact and likes hurting people. He plays angry.
                                I understand MJP.

                                So if we get the second mini pick for Hogan what would you think it would cost? And with the left over 1st rounder who would you take and why?

                                Also what if we do get Hogan and we are in a position to draft Boyd next year? It's not unthinkable lets face it.

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