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  • Dazza
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 548

    #16
    Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

    Another 'potential' player we have is Jarrod Grant.

    Has all the tricks and has some very valuable assets. I hope he manages to have a good season next year.

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    • Missing-Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 3102

      #17
      Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
      Higgins has been accused of being a bit soft on here. And I've had a fair crack at him over years gone by.
      One thing that has given me confidence is BMac's endorsement of Shaun's efforts off field.
      Injury has been the big obstacle. If Bmac is happy that he is working as hard as he can, then it's good enough for me. The other side is Sherman. You could argue that Sherman is a similar type to Shaun. Possibly as much 'potential' and has been cut from the team for not 'cracking in'. Again, gives me a bit of confidence we are moving in the right direction. Both situations confirmed my gut feelings about both players.
      Anyone who thinks Higgins is soft, must watch a different player to me. Unfairly maligned because he lacks a yard and is often playing injured.
      He was the best inside mid of his draft maybe he should be playing in the middle with rests up forward, providing he gets in a good pre-season.

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      • wimberga
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 851

        #18
        Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

        Originally posted by theimmortalmike
        Anyone who thinks Higgins is soft, must watch a different player to me. Unfairly maligned because he lacks a yard and is often playing injured.
        He was the best inside mid of his draft maybe he should be playing in the middle with rests up forward, providing he gets in a good pre-season.
        Agree Mike. Higgins has developed a strong inside game and it seems that many fans neglect that part of his game. He still has those silky skills we all know about and a big pre-season for him could just provide some of that polish that we have lacked in the midfield.

        Whilst speaking of potential, how do people feel about Easton Wood? The guy is a serious athlete and can compete, but sometimes the footy nous does not seem to come naturally to him. For instance, Wood often tends to lose his opponent and fly at the football when the "smart" option may be to stay on the ground. This is something my friend mentioned to me early this season and once he did, the glass was well and truly shattered and I saw this almost each time he played.

        Wood is exciting and I hope that he can further develop his skill to go along with his advantageous physical features. However, how much "potential" do posters here believe he has in being able to increase his footy smarts and develop into a more rounded, better decision maker?

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        • The Bulldogs Bite
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 11245

          #19
          Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

          Originally posted by wimberga
          Whilst speaking of potential, how do people feel about Easton Wood? The guy is a serious athlete and can compete, but sometimes the footy nous does not seem to come naturally to him. For instance, Wood often tends to lose his opponent and fly at the football when the "smart" option may be to stay on the ground. This is something my friend mentioned to me early this season and once he did, the glass was well and truly shattered and I saw this almost each time he played.

          Wood is exciting and I hope that he can further develop his skill to go along with his advantageous physical features. However, how much "potential" do posters here believe he has in being able to increase his footy smarts and develop into a more rounded, better decision maker?
          Wood's improvement in his first 3 years was enormous. He's stalled in the last two years which has been disappointing, mainly for the reasons you listed above. He also struggles to find enough of the ball, but again, this is likely due to footy nous more than anything else. He's a great athlete who is as strong as he is fast, and at times he shows great promise as an attacking defender, but too often he loses his man in flight and doesn't find space on the rebound to become an attacking option. His game v Collingwood up until he got injured was phenomenal, but he's had some pretty bad ones too.

          Not sure if Wood could potentially move up the ground into the midfield or even forward. I wouldn't mind seeing a change of position, but with our list and where it's at, we probably need him to nail a position in the back half.

          His progress will be interesting.
          W00F!

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          • Nuggety Back Pocket
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 2064

            #20
            Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

            Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
            cheers,

            wingman, ruck rover wasn't he, good pace, nice kick - anyone else got a clearer memory than me
            He in fact played on a half back flank and was a very determined player. Didn't quite have the talent of his son but was still more than serviceable.

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21825

              #21
              Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

              Some posters go off crook at Higgins for being a bit of a traffic cop. I can see why in some respects, though for the most part I think he's fulfilling a role he's directed to. If that behaviour is so obviously poor, then the coaching staff would certainly pull him in to line.

              His battle with injury has been widely documented and in many ways his performaces to this point can be justified as a result of injury associated restrictions (particularly the OP, and the soft tissue injuries that can follow it). At the highest level the most talented of players can look as if they're cruising, but so much of it comes down to preparation.

              If he gets a clear run at this preaseason and maintains an injury free introduction to the season then I'll be very interested to see if his output increases. I think he has the tools to be a sweeping and outside midfielder, that also has the ability to win his own ball, though this is solely dependant on his body holding up.

              He's close to our best finisher as it stands, and if fit any side that doesn't man him up with a quality defender will have two kicked on them.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • F'scary
                WOOF Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 4089

                #22
                Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

                Sorry but they have tried Higgins in a number of positions: the so-called "quarter back" HBF role, the defensive midfield "sweeper," the inside middy, the outside middy, the run-with middy, the burst middy.

                None of these has been a success because he is essentially a forward-of-the-ball, flashy receiver-finisher - good mark for his size including on the lead but who lacks stamina, is not that physically robust and is not defensively inclined.

                He is a slick, fancy-pants medium sized forward. FP or HFF. Good goal kicker. Good with inside 50 scoring assists
                Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                • always right
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 4189

                  #23
                  Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

                  Originally posted by F'scary
                  Sorry but they have tried Higgins in a number of positions: the so-called "quarter back" HBF role, the defensive midfield "sweeper," the inside middy, the outside middy, the run-with middy, the burst middy.

                  None of these has been a success because he is essentially a forward-of-the-ball, flashy receiver-finisher - good mark for his size including on the lead but who lacks stamina, is not that physically robust and is not defensively inclined.

                  He is a slick, fancy-pants medium sized forward. FP or HFF. Good goal kicker.
                  So at this stage he's a poor man's Steve Johnson.
                  I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                  • F'scary
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 4089

                    #24
                    Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

                    Originally posted by always right
                    So at this stage he's a poor man's Steve Johnson.
                    If a few things go his way, he could be as valuable on the forward line.
                    Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11245

                      #25
                      Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

                      Originally posted by always right
                      So at this stage he's a poor man's Steve Johnson.
                      Shannon Grant is probably a better comparison. Stevie J is a category unto himself.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • Missing-Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3102

                        #26
                        Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

                        Originally posted by F'scary
                        Sorry but they have tried Higgins in a number of positions: the so-called "quarter back" HBF role, the defensive midfield "sweeper," the inside middy, the outside middy, the run-with middy, the burst middy.

                        None of these has been a success because he is essentially a forward-of-the-ball, flashy receiver-finisher - good mark for his size including on the lead but who lacks stamina, is not that physically robust and is not defensively inclined.

                        He is a slick, fancy-pants medium sized forward. FP or HFF. Good goal kicker. Good with inside 50 scoring assists
                        At what stage was he fit and uninjured when trialled in these positions...?
                        I also think you'll find at least half his possessions are contested when he plays midfield. You have him pegged as a slow Eagleton, unfortunately I think he's more a frequently injured classy inside mid.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21825

                          #27
                          Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Shannon Grant is probably a better comparison. Stevie J is a category unto himself.
                          If Higgins could be as consistent as Grant was or make defenders look half as stupid as Johnson does then we'd have to be happy with that.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66700

                            #28
                            Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

                            Originally posted by jeemak
                            If Higgins could be as consistent as Grant was or make defenders look half as stupid as Johnson does then we'd have to be happy with that.
                            He will be captaining the London team, should be good experience for him.
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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              #29
                              Re: Potential, yes it's a dirty word but let's go there

                              Originally posted by theimmortalmike
                              At what stage was he fit and uninjured when trialled in these positions...?
                              I also think you'll find at least half his possessions are contested when he plays midfield. You have him pegged as a slow Eagleton, unfortunately I think he's more a frequently injured classy inside mid.
                              Well he better have permanent forward as another string to his bow because the competition for mid-field spots has increased seriously now.
                              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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