Chris Dawes?

[F'scary]

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Just reading reports and putting 2 + 2 together. Doesn't seem like we're pushing that hard from what I've read. Could be leaks from player managers or Collingwood to talk up a bit of extra currency.

Got ya. Neeld & Co seem fairly confident in getting him to agree.

Could work out for the best.

Correct. I have analysed his career statistics. Unless Western Bulldogs intend using draft picks to bolster their reserves team, he is a dud.

[Eastdog]

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We may not get him and that probably would be better for us in that we keep our draft picks and go for the best young talent in the country. Do you reckon though if Dawes did come and play with us that he may play better than he was at Collingwood. There are certains areas of his game that need improving but he still could be very useful.

[LostDoggy]

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We may not get him and that probably would be better for us in that we keep our draft picks and go for the best young talent in the country. Do you reckon though if Dawes did come and play with us that he may play better than he was at Collingwood. There are certains areas of his game that need improving but he still could be very useful.

Had a good season the previous year and had to ruck this year. 80 games 24 year old key forward, something that we need at the moment. He will get back to his 2011 form if he is used as our main forward.... Draft him

[GVGjr]

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Surely Tom Davidson rates a mention too...

Not really. A rookie list player who couldn't earn a promotion with 12 senior players injured.

[Eastdog]

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Had a good season the previous year and had to ruck this year. 80 games 24 year old key forward, something that we need at the moment. He will get back to his 2011 form if he is used as our main forward.... Draft him

In that case if we do use him as a key forward he would be a very good pick up and hopefully he recaptures that form from 2011.

[Remi Moses]

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Sydney has had some misses - Everitt (x2), Paul Chambers, Henry Playfair spring to mind. Didn't they get David Spriggs as well?
What Sydney are good at in the main is identifying 'unsexy' players who can provide a role and who are under-valued by the rest of the competition. Marty Mattner, Ted Richards, Rhyce Shaw, Kennedy, McGlynn all good examples. None of the other clubs were rushing the door down to get these players at the time, and they have all played their roles well once at the Swans.

Spot on. They're batting about 500, I 'd reckon.
The whole moneyball and Sydney comparison is nonsense.
Kennedy and Mumford were offered better deals than from their old clubs.
Their good drafting gets overlooked

[Topdog]

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Had a good season the previous year and had to ruck this year. 80 games 24 year old key forward, something that we need at the moment. He will get back to his 2011 form if he is used as our main forward.... Draft him

I'd question rating his season as good. It was average. Surely 40 goals is needed for good?
Dawes didn't even reach 30.

Let's stop rating him just because he is now linked to us. I can't believe someone even mentioned him in the same league as Tippett.

[Throughandthrough]

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I'd question rating his season as good. It was average. Surely 40 goals is needed for good?
Dawes didn't even reach 30.

Let's stop rating him just because he is now linked to us. I can't believe someone even mentioned him in the same league as Tippett.

Tippett was rubbish for much of this year.

I hope we get Dawes. A big burly forward that can take a mark and kick a goal. Sure he makes a few mistakes from time to time but hell we need him.

[Eastdog]

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I'd question rating his season as good. It was average. Surely 40 goals is needed for good?
Dawes didn't even reach 30.

Let's stop rating him just because he is now linked to us. I can't believe someone even mentioned him in the same league as Tippett.

Good point Topdog. While players that are connected to us are exciting we shouldn't get our hopes up very time someone is connected as they may not turn out to be that much.

[GVGjr]

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I know i'm in the minority, but I'm in the get Dawes camp.

Although i think pick 21 and 47 is paying overs. I would be happy to part with pick 21 for Dawes.

He's only 24, has proven to be a pretty good player at AFL level for a sustained period and has shown he is a pretty solid 2nd ruckmen, something we are crying out for. Campbell, Cordy, Jones and Grant don't fit any of that criteria.

He's in the age group of players we need. Once our next crop comes through, every premiership side needs experienced players aged 28-31 to compliment the rest of the list.

Having said all that, I won't be too disappointed if we miss out.

I too think Dawes will be good for us and at least give us a target and is still young enough to grow with our young team . But if we don't get i'm not fazed at all.
We have to nail pick 5 &6 thats the key.

[1eyedog]

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Tippett was rubbish for much of this year.

I hope we get Dawes. A big burly forward that can take a mark and kick a goal. Sure he makes a few mistakes from time to time but hell we need him.

Any key forward who has played over 50 games and has played around the same amount of games as goals kicked is not worth looking at.

He is a one goal a game player. He is not going to make any difference, Jones will again be put on the back burner in terms of development and we will just bomb it long to Dawes as a get out clause. He is too slow on a lead because he is too heavy and I have visions of him this year leading to the ball with the backman right on his hammer ready to spoil. He rarely marks on a lead due to an issue of pace and when he crashes a pack is just as likely to take out our players out as well.

It will be predictable and frustrating. He is Stewart Loewe who can't mark.

Gee we are a desperate lot aren't we!

[Eastdog]

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Any key forward who has played over 50 games and has played a far higher number of games than goals kicked is not worth looking at.

Gee we are a desperate lot aren't we!

We sure are. We are crying out for a key forward but maybe somewhere in the draft will find the next great full forward fingers crossed.

[Topdog]

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Tippett was rubbish for much of this year.

I hope we get Dawes. A big burly forward that can take a mark and kick a goal. Sure he makes a few mistakes from time to time but hell we need him.

Yes he was whilst battling concussion. Yet he still outperformed Dawes best EVER year. Smashed it actually. Played 21 times,2 of those cut short by concussion and 1 where he was still clearly affected by it. Yet kicked 9 more goals than Dawes.

So yes I can't believe someone compared Dawes to Tippett

[LostDoggy]

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I don't mind if we get Dawes at the right price. There I have said it, I am out of the closet..

[1eyedog]

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Hey I don't mind if we get him either but the right price is not 21 and if that's the case he's not going to the Bulldogs.