Gumbleton

[Bornadog]

Re: Gumbleton

You could add in Galaxy, Romero and Libba but we have still lost much more than we have ever gained.
As to your reply mentioning Dempsey, Round and Quinlan you must have been watching them play from a parallel universe.
You could not be so much further from the truth.

I think 1 eye forgets how many B&F, Brownlow, VIC Reps did Dempsey achieve while still a Bulldog.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

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41 and Sherman.

I hear you Nutcracker.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Gumbleton

Quinlan

Footscray
Games: 177 (241 goals)

Fitzroy
Games: 189 (576 goals)

Barry Round leaves and wins a Brownlow a few years later at another club.

They were exponentially better players at the second club they played for.

I did not mean to include Dempsey in that statement.

Quinlan played at CHB for us. The very thesis of your team and quotes offends me (not hard to do ).
I don't give a rats arse what slings and slights some smart arse throws at us, as long as the club does what it perceives as in our best interest. In the distant past we had to trade great players to stay afloat. We had to break our hearts to survive. Tom Alvin was ours from our recruiting zone but didn't get on the park for us; we had to get money other than the capital we had in the grandstand.
Now we are in better financial circumstances than ever in our history I would imagine, even though we're not in the same league, so to speak, as the big guys.
Gordon and Colles have on the agenda to address the uneven playground so we can hope to field a team and shape a club that will make us a desirable destination.
Long live Chris Grant.

[Twodogs]

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Yeah look I'm actually struggling to match the quality that's left with the quality that's come in aside from Aker, Hall and Wallace and perhaps Krakouer and Toohey.

You could add in Galaxy, Romero and Libba but we have still lost much more than we have ever gained.

Peter Foster, Phil Maylin, Ian Hampshire, Les Bamblett, Stuart Magee, Ken Greenwood, Mark Kellett, Richard Osborne, Paul Hudson, Tony Campbell, Todd Curley, Brad Wira, Matty Dent, Simon Garlick, Nathan Eagleton, Ben Hudson and Scott Welsh all went OK.

Barry Round leaves and wins a Brownlow a few years later at another club.

It was seven years after leaving us. He left at the end of '75 because he was behind Dempsey and Salmon in the pecking order.

Tom Alvin was ours from our recruiting zone but didn't get on the park for us.

Scott Wynd did though and we pinched him from underneath North Melbourne's nose. Just as we pinched Charlie Sutton out from underneath South Melbourne's nose. Ian Dunstan should have gone to Collingwood under F/S, just as Liam Picken could have.

As you say it's slings and arrows.

Demps is right up there with EJ, Charlie, Allan Hopkins, Jack Collins, John Schultz, The Hawk, Chris Grant, KT & Johnno for our top 10 greatest of all time! *

*Apologies to Arthur Olliver, Norm Ware, Harry Hickey, Wally Donald, Scott West and a heap I've probably forgotten.

Cant believe you left Scooter out of your top ten. That top ten you've named is a ripper though.

[Twodogs]

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Know its off topic but couldn't resist...

FB: Harbrow Lake McMahon
CHB McLean Rance Montgomery
C Cameron Wilson Hawkins
CHF Edmond Quinlan Brown
FF Hardie Templeton Round
R Dempsey, Ward, McGuiness

FB: B. Wira T. Campbell M. Dent
CHB: T Curley P. Foster. B. Toohey
C: P Maylin T. Wallace S. Magee
CHF: R. Osborne G. Coleman P. Hudson
FF: J. Akermanis B. Hall L. Bamblett
R: B. Hudson J Romero T. Liberatore

IC S. Welsh, S. Garlick, I. Hampshire, N. Eagleton

Emegencies M. Kellett, K. Greenwood, K. Hunter, J. Cook.


By my reckoning 21 of those 26 players played at least 50 games for us. 8 played at least 100.A brownlow, 3 All Australians, 4 B&Fs and 3 leading goalkickers.

[LostDoggy]

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FB: B. Wira T. Campbell M. Dent
CHB: T Curley P. Foster. B. Toohey
C: P Maylin T. Wallace S. Magee
CHF: R. Osborne G. Coleman P. Hudson
FF: J. Akermanis B. Hall L. Bamblett
R: B. Hudson J Romero T. Liberatore

IC S. Welsh, S. Garlick, I. Hampshire, N. Eagleton

Emegencies M. Kellett, K. Greenwood, K. Hunter, J. Cook.


By my reckoning 21 of those 26 players played at least 50 games for us. 8 played at least 100.A brownlow, 3 All Australians, 4 B&Fs and 3 leading goalkickers.

No offence but I'd back my team in against yours

[westdog54]

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No offence but I'd back my team in against yours

By my reckoning Montgomery should be playing for both teams shouldn't he?

[LostDoggy]

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By my reckoning Montgomery should be playing for both teams shouldn't he?

Correct. There's a few like that, like the Hudsons, but couldn't squeeze them in ahead of Round and Dempsey (and Brown or Edmond)

[always right]

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Mind you...two of our club "hall of famers" (Templeton and Hawkins) were inconsequential for the teams they went to. The Templeton and Hawkins that played for us were simply shadows of their former selves once they left us.

[Axe Man]

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FB: B. Wira T. Campbell M. Dent
CHB: T Curley P. Foster. B. Toohey
C: P Maylin T. Wallace S. Magee
CHF: R. Osborne G. Coleman P. Hudson
FF: J. Akermanis B. Hall L. Bamblett
R: B. Hudson J Romero T. Liberatore

IC S. Welsh, S. Garlick, I. Hampshire, N. Eagleton

Emegencies M. Kellett, K. Greenwood, K. Hunter, J. Cook.


By my reckoning 21 of those 26 players played at least 50 games for us. 8 played at least 100.A brownlow, 3 All Australians, 4 B&Fs and 3 leading goalkickers.

With 139 games for the dogs I reckon Matthew Robbins could probably squeeze in there somewhere.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Gumbleton

With 139 games for the dogs I reckon Matthew Robbins could probably squeeze in there somewhere.

Cook would have him covered....

[LostDoggy]

Re: Gumbleton

Guys, can we perhaps start another thread to discuss greats of old? This one is to talk about whether we will pick up Gumbleton.

Cheers

[gohardorgohome]

Re: Gumbleton

Mind you...two of our club "hall of famers" (Templeton and Hawkins) were inconsequential for the teams they went to. The Templeton and Hawkins that played for us were simply shadows of their former selves once they left us.

Douggie Hawkins was 35 and played all bar one game at Fitzroy in 1995. I thought he did well. He had 342 disposals for the year. This meant he had six other seasons at the dogs where he had less disposals.

[always right]

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Douggie Hawkins was 35 and played all bar one game at Fitzroy in 1995. I thought he did well. He had 342 disposals for the year. This meant he had six other seasons at the dogs where he had less disposals.

Stats don't tell the whole story. He played virtually every game at Fitzroy because they were a crap team. I don't wish to disparage the great Doug Hawkins but he was a long way from being the player we idolised at the dogs. Doug should have retired a one club player.

[1eyedog]

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FB: B. Wira T. Campbell M. Dent
CHB: T Curley P. Foster. B. Toohey
C: P Maylin T. Wallace S. Magee
CHF: R. Osborne G. Coleman P. Hudson
FF: J. Akermanis B. Hall L. Bamblett
R: B. Hudson J Romero T. Liberatore

IC S. Welsh, S. Garlick, I. Hampshire, N. Eagleton

Emegencies M. Kellett, K. Greenwood, K. Hunter, J. Cook.


By my reckoning 21 of those 26 players played at least 50 games for us. 8 played at least 100.A brownlow, 3 All Australians, 4 B&Fs and 3 leading goalkickers.

You've left out Luke Beveridge, the shame!