Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #31
    Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

    This thread is great as a bit of off-season escapism, but otherwise pretty moot.

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    • China Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 64

      #32
      Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

      We shouldn't waste our time with someone like Tippett. He has proved he lacks real character in the way he left the Crows and does not fit our new philosophy of 'solid character' players.

      We would be better developing someone from the draft as a key forward and if we use a PSD pick, use it on Ben Jacobs, who has considerable upside and the right attitude to the game.

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      • Topdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7483

        #33
        Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

        Im happy to sign him up, use him for 1 season and then trade him for draft picks next year.

        Even more so if he is suspended for half the season.

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        • Throughandthrough
          Coaching Staff
          • Nov 2007
          • 3210

          #34
          Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

          Hypothetically, if we took Tippett and said all we can afford is $200k, what would the downside be? (apart from team disunity and no development maybe...)

          Presumably he doesnt have to play, and yes he would be pi55ed off, but still? What could he do, stand out of footy and watch his value fall lower?

          And if by some miracle he kicks a lazy 70 goals we would presumab;ly get a half decent bounty for him the next year, or heavens above pay him a lot more to stay?

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45586

            #35
            Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

            I might be wrong here but he has the option of nominating his salary requirements and before any team drafts him they have to have the cap room to pay it.

            I don't think it's as simple as a team drafting him and paying him what they think is OK.
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #36
              Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

              Originally posted by Topdog
              Im happy to sign him up, use him for 1 season and then trade him for draft picks next year.
              Just don't put it in writing

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 22155

                #37
                Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I might be wrong here but he has the option of nominating his salary requirements and before any team drafts him they have to have the cap room to pay it.

                I don't think it's as simple as a team drafting him and paying him what they think is OK.
                Pretty sure we'd have to match the offers put forward by other clubs to secure him.

                We'd have the cap space to compete with other clubs, but it comes down to whether we deem him of desirable character, and whether he deems us a club he wants to play with. I don't think there's any question of his talent. however. He's much better than anyone we've got now.

                I'm happy enough to let him go somewhere else though. We've just off-loaded a player that was more concerned about himself than he was about the club and its needs beyond what might be considered a reasonable balance between the two, I don't think we should replace him with another that is similar.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67706

                  #38
                  Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

                  Rumour he is about to retire
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                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67706

                    #39
                    Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Rumour he is about to retire
                    Now confirmed


                    Sydney Swans
                    @sydneyswans
                    2m2 minutes ago


                    Kurt Tippett has announced his retirement from football effective immediately.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #40
                      Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

                      Frees up some salary cap I imagine. With the greatest respect to all, this was one if the worst, if not the worst, deal/manoeuvre ever in their history.

                      Adelaide got smashed, then sure they used just a PSD pick but then he gets a huge suspension and his wage on top of (later) Franklins wage forces out some very good players. All while putting together a resume at Sydney on par with Wade Skipper, doing nothing in his GFs and the club not winning a flag (which was clearly the intent of such a big deal). About time Sydney stuffed something up in player movements having gotten it almost perfect for so long.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27682

                        #41
                        Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

                        Speaking of drafts I saw Gillon on the news last night saying his big thing now is to get a mid season draft up and running and he doesn't see why it can't held be this year.

                        We might still change our list.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          #42
                          Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

                          Big flop for mine . Got him to win a flag and didn’t come off. Awful in 2 GF’s to

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27682

                            #43
                            Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

                            Originally posted by Remi Moses
                            Big flop for mine . Got him to win a flag and didn’t come off. Awful in 2 GF’s to

                            I know, I was at one of them.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • The Adelaide Connection
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2844

                              #44
                              Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Frees up some salary cap I imagine. With the greatest respect to all, this was one if the worst, if not the worst, deal/manoeuvre ever in their history.

                              Adelaide got smashed, then sure they used just a PSD pick but then he gets a huge suspension and his wage on top of (later) Franklins wage forces out some very good players. All while putting together a resume at Sydney on par with Wade Skipper, doing nothing in his GFs and the club not winning a flag (which was clearly the intent of such a big deal). About time Sydney stuffed something up in player movements having gotten it almost perfect for so long.
                              What are the rules around retiring before the contract is up? I am assuming they must have done a deal to pay out a certain amount of it, otherwise he would just sit on their injury list and keep banking his full million+
                              Does anyone know how it works?

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #45
                                Re: Tippett in Pre Season Draft?

                                Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                                What are the rules around retiring before the contract is up? I am assuming they must have done a deal to pay out a certain amount of it, otherwise he would just sit on their injury list and keep banking his full million+
                                Does anyone know how it works?
                                Timing seems suspicious too. Sports pages are tied up with our ODI failures, BBL working towards finals, SA test squad announced, Australian Open quarters now. Plus AFLW about to begin with AFLX too, the AFEL wouldn't want to jeopardise that or put scrutiny on Sydney and a 3 year contacted player on huge money jumping ship. The AFEL said after the Buddy deal that they'd be watching Sydney to make sure they weren't rigging the system by cutting players early of contracts or under paying them after other clubs couldn't afford to match offers. Tippett got to the PSD because all clubs couldn't match the years or dollars. Now Tippett 'retires' 3 years early and the cap millions that scared everyone off not relevant. Seems all too suspicious for my cynical thinking. Equally, no one will raise it officially, up to and including the AFEL, so it's a case of whatever.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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