Sherman - Delisted

[MrMahatma]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

Right call today.

We gambled when we thought all we needed was some outside speed to clinche a flag. We lost. Cest la vie.

Not worth keeping. I've been happy with our off season efforts so far.

[1eyedog]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

It's a rapid fall from grace to delist a player after only two seasons that you essentially traded a first round (or early second round) pick for.

I understand why supporters dislike Sherman, and ultimately it's been a tragic trade, but I thought he still had something to offer.

Be interesting to see who actually picks him up.

Pace, we lack it.

[Mantis]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

McCartney seems to have some sort of plan in mind, but he's looking more and more pig headed about it by the day. What does it say about a supposed "great teacher" when he gives up on a challenging pupil after one season?

It would have been a great success story in the eyes of many if we had gotten Sherman to play the type of footy we wanted... and it may have taken more than 6 months, but we had time on our side.

Sounds like he was placed in the too hard basket....

But not to be just letting us off the hook, he'd had two coaches previously that had got sick of his approach/game

I did't think this was the case under Eade, was it?

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

Is he the worst trade in our history?

Pfft. Not even close.

For the record, our worst ever trade would have to be Geoff Raines for Marty McMillan (think about that next time you hit a Richmond supporter with Jordon McMahon).

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

How do you get that impression? Nothing was ever mentioned before or after that incident, in terms of it being regular behavior.

I'm only referring to that one game. But during that game, I believe he abused the player repeatedly. Not just a one off insult.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

I'm only referring to that one game. But during that game, I believe he abused the player repeatedly. Not just a one off insult.

Fair enough..

[Bulldog Revolution]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

I did't think this was the case under Eade, was it?

No it wasn't

Eade had him playing good football I thought

[GVGjr]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

No it wasn't

Eade had him playing good football I thought

Sherman did play some good football under Eade but his form and I assume his confidence dropped when he was suspended.

To that end though he is the same as Everitt to me. Everitt must have frustrated Eade no end by not being that focused on football and his inability to lift his intensity when they put the pressure on him. Sherman was asked to adapt McCartney and just didn't give it his all so in the end the hard decision was made.

For the right team Sherman could be a good footballer so I wonder where he might land.

[jeemak]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

I see it as another legacy of our tendency towards short sightedness under Eade, which is a legacy that we'll be paying for over the forseeable future unfortunately.

It's a shame he didn't work out, as I think he had talent and attributes that could have assisted our team for a number of years.

Without knowing the full story, it's hard to tell who's responsible for the situation panning out the way it has. It's a very bold move by the club and in some ways refreshing that players not towing the line are made accountable.

[Sedat]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

I see it as another legacy of our tendency towards short sightedness under Eade, which is a legacy that we'll be paying for over the forseeable future unfortunately.

It's a shame he didn't work out, as I think he had talent and attributes that could have assisted our team for a number of years.

Without knowing the full story, it's hard to tell who's responsible for the situation panning out the way it has. It's a very bold move by the club and in some ways refreshing that players not towing the line are made accountable.

The player himself would surely be the first port of call for the end result of this situation.

As for your first point, IMO this would be the single-worst player related decision made under Eade's watch in his 7 years at the club. Sherman had never consistently played to a level approaching AFL standard in his entire career except for one season very early in his career, and in our haste to extract immediate returns on our Harbrow compensation, we threw it away on such a flighty proposition. It really isn't a surprise that his consistency issues never improved in years 7 and 8 of his AFL career.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

It would have been a great success story in the eyes of many if we had gotten Sherman to play the type of footy we wanted... and it may have taken more than 6 months, but we had time on our side.

Sounds like he was placed in the too hard basket....



I did't think this was the case under Eade, was it?

A good decision by the MC. Didn't impress under either Eade or McCartney. When the club was desperate for experienced forwards in 2012, Sherman simply didn't measure up.

[jeemak]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

The player himself would surely be the first port of call for the end result of this situation.

As for your first point, IMO this would be the single-worst player related decision made under Eade's watch in his 7 years at the club. Sherman had never consistently played to a level approaching AFL standard in his entire career except for one season very early in his career, and in our haste to extract immediate returns on our Harbrow compensation, we threw it away on such a flighty proposition. It really isn't a surprise that his consistency issues never improved in years 7 and 8 of his AFL career.

As it's early doors with McCartney at the helm he hasn't had enough time to demonstrate a track record of not wanting to work with players. I wouldn't like a supposed developer of people to forge a reputatioin for cutting loose player going forwards if they are deemed too hard to work with, but for the reasons you and others have mentioned in previous posts Sherman looks to have marked his own cards.

[hujsh]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

His card was marked at pre-season training when Macca had a go at him for not having his shirt on and seeing his tatts.

What is the issue in this case? The fact he was shirtless? Is that so uncommon in the preseason?

[1eyedog]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

I'm guessing Shermo thought he was pretty good (no shirts and Shermo does have wanker tatts) with an attitude that goes with it. He's also not the most intelligent guy going around (pers comm WB player). My bet is Macca thought geez got a battle pulling this guys attitude into line and I'm not even sure if he's smart enough to learn how to turn it around.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Sherman - Delisted

What is the issue in this case? The fact he was shirtless? Is that so uncommon in the preseason?

Running past the contest I would say. Our coach hates that.