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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14309

    #16
    Re: BMac on our future

    Originally posted by The Pie Man
    Too good

    I'm with Cyber though - he needs to stop referencing previous experience of any kind so much in the media - it's irrelevant. The game changes too much from season to season.
    Hopefully in the coming years people get sick of him mentioning us after 10 year and 4 flags
    Bring back the biff

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    • Eastdog
      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
      • Feb 2012
      • 18287

      #17
      Re: BMac on our future

      Originally posted by ledge
      Hopefully in the coming years people get sick of him mentioning us after 10 year and 4 flags
      Yes that would be good
      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #18
        Re: BMac on our future

        The Coach's emphasis on getting good blokes and basics = good.

        Senior coaching experience in the box = Not quite there.

        More from our assistant coaches in media = yes please. Shannon Grant especially.

        Good promo for our club in this article? = Hell yes - love the union jack ref to our colours.

        Focus on Liberatore a good thing? = Big question mark.

        Breaking bad as a good example for the club? = maybe!!!
        Last edited by Ghost Dog; 13-11-2012, 12:27 PM.
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • Cyberdoggie
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 2859

          #19
          Re: BMac on our future

          Originally posted by G-Mo77
          That's his background so it's no surprise that he refer back to it. I've got no problem in using Geelong as a template for building a team.

          Would you rather he reference Ocean Grove.
          I'd rather he didn't reference anyone.

          I want to hear him say only that this is the way i want to do it and this is the way it will work for 'our' club

          I get the need to identify or qualify himself as being from that successful team down the road, but a year has past and that is old news.

          If he is still coaching us in three years time will he still be bringing up geelong and talking about how good Ling and Harley were?, i can understand that for his first year but it's time to move on from that now.

          I want to know that he is our coach and he bleeds red white and blue, not someone who is on loan from Geelong, or a Gus Hiddink who is just here for the cash and glory then he's off chasing the next dollar/rubel.

          I want to hear him say he's doing it his way, sure lean from your past but you need to move on, because at the moment all i hear is that he's copying Geelong from 4 years ago and that it should work here. The game changes every year, what are we doing to be ahead of the game? I feel like we are in the catch up class.

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          • MrMahatma
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2007
            • 3965

            #20
            Re: BMac on our future

            People quote experience in any line of work. It's part of gaining credibility. The fact he's been assistant at other clubs, and was a big part on developing one of the all-time great teams is a good thing.

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            • F'scary
              WOOF Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 4089

              #21
              Re: BMac on our future

              It is positive that he did not use the phrase "cracking in."

              However, in the article when he screams

              "That's unacceptable. Unacceptable. Get him off and tell him."

              maybe the player was to be told off for not "cracking in."
              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66707

                #22
                Re: BMac on our future

                Originally posted by bulldogsimmo
                And what if he played previously at only one club, would that somehow magically make him a better coach, would you get tired of him referencing his playing days? I just think this is soft target stuff. Our club has deemed he has the skills and range of experience to be a successful coach, lets give the man a chance to do his job.
                I am giving him full support, what I said it is a concern.

                What I saw in 2012 does not give me confidence for the future, but lets wait and see.
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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21829

                  #23
                  Re: BMac on our future

                  Originally posted by F'scary
                  It is positive that he did not use the phrase "cracking in."

                  However, in the article when he screams

                  "That's unacceptable. Unacceptable. Get him off and tell him."

                  maybe the player was to be told off for not "cracking in."
                  Give it a spell mate.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • F'scary
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 4089

                    #24
                    Re: BMac on our future

                    Originally posted by jeemak
                    give it a spell mate.
                    abracadabra
                    Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11248

                      #25
                      Re: BMac on our future

                      Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                      I want to hear him say he's doing it his way, sure lean from your past but you need to move on, because at the moment all i hear is that he's copying Geelong from 4 years ago and that it should work here. The game changes every year, what are we doing to be ahead of the game? I feel like we are in the catch up class.
                      Maybe he's ahead of the pack and the game will revert to something along the lines of 2005-6 - ie: heavy one-on-one, huge emphasis on contested possessions and less emphasis on pristine ball movement. The cluster/press game plans of Hawthorn/St Kilda/Collingwood circa 2008-2010 are already obsolete, as is Geelong and Bulldogs run-and-gun game plan from the same period. Sydney just won a flag by playing most of the game in their back half and slingshotting the ball forward into wide open spaces a-la Pagan's Paddock - they won 2 of their finals after being smashed in contested possessions and time in opposition half.

                      Pristine ball movement is flavour of the month right now (Sydney, Hawthorn), but it might change over time as clubs won't want to give skilful players acres of space to distribute with precision - that might lead to potentially more one-on-one football in the next 2-3 seasons - if it doesn't, we are up the well-known creek without a paddle.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • EasternWest
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10002

                        #26
                        Re: BMac on our future

                        Originally posted by F'scary
                        It is positive that he did not use the phrase "cracking in."

                        However, in the article when he screams

                        "That's unacceptable. Unacceptable. Get him off and tell him."

                        maybe the player was to be told off for not "cracking in."
                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        Give it a spell mate.
                        Aside from the obvious desire for our team and our new coach to do well because I want to win, I really hope that we do improve so that those obnoxious posters that use the term "cracking in" so derisively will pull their heads in.

                        I'm with you jeemak, it's such a tired criticism that it doesn't even mean anything anymore. It should be followed up with "bring back Eade!".
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21829

                          #27
                          Re: BMac on our future

                          Originally posted by F'scary
                          abracadabra
                          I did actually laugh at this.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            #28
                            Re: BMac on our future

                            Originally posted by F'scary
                            It is positive that he did not use the phrase "cracking in."

                            However, in the article when he screams

                            "That's unacceptable. Unacceptable. Get him off and tell him."

                            maybe the player was to be told off for not "cracking in."
                            Huh? The continual sniping of the coach is tedious.
                            I just emplore we see how it goes this season, yes if we're non competitive like the second half of last season then serious questions have to be asked.

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                            • Remi Moses
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 14785

                              #29
                              Re: BMac on our future

                              Originally posted by EasternWest
                              Aside from the obvious desire for our team and our new coach to do well because I want to win, I really hope that we do improve so that those obnoxious posters that use the term "cracking in" so derisively will pull their heads in.

                              I'm with you jeemak, it's such a tired criticism that it doesn't even mean anything anymore. It should be followed up with "bring back Eade!".
                              It was funny the first 100 times, but it's getting unfunny now.

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                              • EasternWest
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10002

                                #30
                                Re: BMac on our future

                                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                                It was funny the first 100 times, but it's getting unfunny now.
                                I'd say the humour ran out well before then.

                                Anyway. I like that the coach has stuck to his guns and has a vision of what he wants us to be about. I can take pain, and I'm hopeful we'll see some gains towards the end of this year.

                                I'm at least willing to give him the term of his contract.
                                "It's over. It's all over."

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