Predict who we will draft

[WB4Life]

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I reckon it shows some goodwill or at least an attempt at establishing goodwill. They didn't have to give up their picks. Didn't have to proclaim their guilt with Tippett either so they're acknowledging our feeling of being cheated and doing a bit of soul sacrificing. Good to see and I guess this could be the way of the future, self imposed regulation and punishment. It does solicit goodwill from fellow stakeholders, in this case opposition clubs.

All they are trying to do is limit their exposure, they no they've got a lot of pain coming their way, so if they can take some now, when it won't hurt as much, why not... this way they know what they are giving up, pick 20, instead of what could be a top 15 or top 10 depending on A) how severe the punishment is and B) how they go in coming years. Plus i'm assuming they are hoping that by them "stepping up" they will be more lenient when it comes to sentencing.

don't be fooled there is no good will in this.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

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All they are trying to do is limit their exposure, they no they've got a lot of pain coming their way, so if they can take some now, when it won't hurt as much, why not... this way they know what they are giving up, pick 20, instead of what could be a top 15 or top 10 depending on A) how severe the punishment is and B) how they go in coming years. Plus i'm assuming they are hoping that by them "stepping up" they will be more lenient when it comes to sentencing.

don't be fooled there is no good will in this.

Well I disagree. Goodwill is inherent in all human factions and societies. It must be or else the whole thing collapses. Stock exchange, language itself is predicated on this assumption. If we thought that the majority of transactions are without goodwill then the system collapses. It is all too easy to be cynical and to say that everyone is in it for themselves but if there is no general respect for the needs of the all and it's every bastard for themselves, there could be no AFL, no society. Don't worry there is honour even among thieves and AFL teams. We all must practise trust as much as possible. This is not mutually exclusive with nous and healthy scepticism. Its not Mad Max yet, but if I see it coming, I'm grabbing Tina Turner.

[jeemak]

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Too similar. Only going on what I've read, he sounds like he's great at what he does but it doesn't seem like he'll add anything very different to our mix. I was really hoping that we could use this draft to add some skills and polish (blah blah blah)

I agree that's what we need. Though, a fair argument can be made for a player with good solid disposal as Wines is purported to have if a standout in the draft (with Father Son selections included, he's probably top seven or so), should be selected over a player that brings a more narrow skill set.

I personally don't think having all of Wines, Stevens, Smith, Wallis and Liberatore is too much of an issue going forwards anyway. Sure, if Cross and Boyd were in their mid-twenties my thoughts would be different, but they're not. It would be great if all of the abovementioned turned out to be 150-200 game players, though realistically we need to be prepared for one or two of them to have average careers, injury issues or the want to move to another club over the coming years. That's just how football works.

[LostDoggy]

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I agree that's what we need. Though, a fair argument can be made for a player with good solid disposal as Wines is purported to have if a standout in the draft (with Father Son selections included, he's probably top seven or so), should be selected over a player that brings a more narrow skill set.

I personally don't think having all of Wines, Stevens, Smith, Wallis and Liberatore is too much of an issue going forwards anyway. Sure, if Cross and Boyd were in their mid-twenties my thoughts would be different, but they're not. It would be great if all of the abovementioned turned out to be 150-200 game players, though realistically we need to be prepared for one or two of them to have average careers, injury issues or the want to move to another club over the coming years. That's just how football works.

You would think at least one or two will also play high level footy out of half back or half forward anyway as they'll all be on rotation. Yes, we need the pace and polish of O'Rourke but we are nowhere near a premiership window and plenty of time to add that type in the next 2 or 3 drafts. If Wines is next best we should absolutely grab Wines. Very low risk. I'd be happy with Wines/Mayes I think as they both come highly regarded without the injury issued. Macrea is a later bloomer I'm still not 100% sold on. If we want the risk we could take Garlett at 21.......??

[BornInDroopSt'54]

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I agree that's what we need. Though, a fair argument can be made for a player with good solid disposal as Wines is purported to have if a standout in the draft (with Father Son selections included, he's probably top seven or so), should be selected over a player that brings a more narrow skill set.

I personally don't think having all of Wines, Stevens, Smith, Wallis and Liberatore is too much of an issue going forwards anyway. Sure, if Cross and Boyd were in their mid-twenties my thoughts would be different, but they're not. It would be great if all of the abovementioned turned out to be 150-200 game players, though realistically we need to be prepared for one or two of them to have average careers, injury issues or the want to move to another club over the coming years. That's just how football works.

I'm prepared to believe that we are building a formidable midfield. Ideally O'Rourke or Toumpas would slot in as classy receivers but Wines would be a great acquisition. He is not such a one dimensional insider say as young Libba is, rather he is a strong competitor who is suited to inside work but has other attributes. From the AFL website:

"Early last year, he was a stocky 'inside' midfielder at about 182cm. But in the past year he has grown around five centimetres and is now better placed doing some other things, like marking above his head, being a leading target in attack, and having more of a presence around the ground.

He's quick enough, and makes up for any lack of breakaway speed by knowing and reading the game.

"I'm starting to pick up a fair few more handball receives, so when I'm not trying to get it out I'm being involved outside and working it down," he says."

Wines could be part of a formidable Bulldogs midfield, the engine of a successful team. If it's true, as it seems, that GWS are taking O' Rourke and Melbourne will take Toumpas then, hey we take Ollie, gun midfielder and competitor. So that nasty feeling that we have of being robbed by Cooney's injury and the theft of the skill of a sublime outside runner will not be assauged by O'Rourke or Toumpas but we will still have a great midfield.

[Evel]

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Just listened to Brett Anderson on SEN. Had us taking Macrae and Stringer. Said Menzel had a medical at the club last week and they've gone cold on him. Take of that what you will.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Just listened to Brett Anderson on SEN. Had us taking Macrae and Stringer. Said Menzel had a medical at the club last week and they've gone cold on him. Take of that what you will.

Also said we were meeting tonight to finalist who we draft. So still not set yet

Also of note said next years draft will be one of the best and is meant to be stacked with KP forwards early

[GVGjr]

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Is anyone aware if Ben Jacobs is on our radar for pick 21/22?

[Missing Dog]

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Also of note said next years draft will be one of the best and is meant to be stacked with KP forwards early

It's looking better then what I thought it would be mid year, not sure about one of the best yet though.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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reports are now us taking Macrae with 5 and Stringer with 6

I would be happy with that

Anyone prefer Wines over Macrae?

[BornInDroopSt'54]

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It's looking better then what I thought it would be mid year, not sure about one of the best yet though.

A good time to be down the bottom. That's the system the AFL has given us.

[Ghost Dog]

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Prefer MacRae myself. seems a little faster on his feet.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Macrae and Stringer?......... Done.

[Pedro Sanchez]

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Is Macrae the one who is mates with Talia?

Regardless, I think we're set for 2 young exciting and talented players to join the club tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing who we take and getting them into the fold...

[Ghost Dog]

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Hell, I like Stringer better than Whitfield and O'Rourke. Just looks ready to play.