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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44634

    Re: Predict who we will draft

    Originally posted by mjp
    Do you even KNOW Dayle?

    What a joke.
    No I don't.
    But it would seem 18 team recruiting squads do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    • The Underdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2007
      • 6871

      Re: Predict who we will draft

      Originally posted by paulv
      No I don't.
      But it would seem 18 team recruiting squads do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Not as well as mjp, I guarantee you.
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      Drop that phone
      Sleep on the floor
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      • mjp
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7363

        Re: Predict who we will draft

        Originally posted by theimmortalmike
        Getting a bit petulant here mjp you're better than that.
        Why am I better than that? When people are comparing Dayle Garlett to Brendon Fevola (who has done some seriously stupid things) and Jason Akermanis (the epitomy of me before we) then I am going to stick up for him.

        And I will kick and scream all I like because of the 67 non-upgraded selections he is a better player than 66 of them (and you could argue 67).
        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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        • mjp
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7363

          Re: Predict who we will draft

          Originally posted by paulv
          No I don't.
          But it would seem 18 team recruiting squads do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          Actually, I think this proves that they don't know him.
          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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          • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 8962

            Re: Predict who we will draft

            Originally posted by mjp
            Actually, I think this proves that they don't know him.
            Do you think that recruiters, scared to pull the trigger on Dayle in the draft, may be protecting their rear-ends and will be more inclined to take him in the rookie draft.
            Surely the upside of the young fella will prove too much of an allure to overlook him?

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            • LostDog
              WOOF Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 426

              Re: Predict who we will draft

              Lewis Jetta was overlooked wasnt he and told to go back and pull his head in the WAFL
              Because you cant beat the boys of the BULLDOG breed!!!!!

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14946

                Re: Predict who we will draft

                Originally posted by LostDog
                Lewis Jetta was overlooked wasnt he and told to go back and pull his head in the WAFL
                Was Max Duffy told the same thing? Freo picked him up before our pick 50
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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44634

                  Re: Predict who we will draft

                  Originally posted by mjp
                  Why am I better than that? When people are comparing Dayle Garlett to Brendon Fevola (who has done some seriously stupid things) and Jason Akermanis (the epitomy of me before we) then I am going to stick up for him.

                  And I will kick and scream all I like because of the 67 non-upgraded selections he is a better player than 66 of them (and you could argue 67).
                  mjp, I don't think anyone is arguing that the kid can't play. Clearly he has prodigious talent.
                  The problem lies in the fact that we are talking about a team not an individual sport.
                  The history of our game is littered with amazingly talented guys who never did make it, for reasons other than the skills with which they were born.
                  Unfortunately talent alone, no matter how exceptional, will simply never be enough without the correct attitude.

                  Many with exceptional talent simply never make the grade, while players with far less ability, but majorly better attitudes and commitment who get the most out of themselves do, names like Picken, Cross and Boyd spring to mind.
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                  • Missing-Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3102

                    Re: Predict who we will draft

                    Originally posted by mjp
                    Why am I better than that? When people are comparing Dayle Garlett to Brendon Fevola (who has done some seriously stupid things) and Jason Akermanis (the epitomy of me before we) then I am going to stick up for him.

                    And I will kick and scream all I like because of the 67 non-upgraded selections he is a better player than 66 of them (and you could argue 67).
                    Fair enough have a crack at the poster for comparing Garlett to those morons but is it really necessary or constructive to bring up every hit or miss our club has made in the draft? It's a little Facebook for my taste.

                    Also no problems that you rate Dayle that high and it's entirely your perogative to do so as your knowledge of him is obviously fairly close. But is it posible that with the combination of the supposed behavioural issues and recruiter (and possibly coaching) biases, teams were more likely to put him in the too hard/not worth it basket?

                    Hey, I don't know Garlett personally but putting up twitter pictures of yourself drinking/smokng and standing on the head of a dead kangaroo pre-draft after the rumours of less than optimal nocturnal lifestyle habits (again only going by media reports) doesn't exactly sound like a very intelligent thing to do. Especially after an interview he did where he specifically stated it was all behind him. If I was a recruiter who had only interviewed him in passing I would have severe doubts (whether right or wrong) as well.
                    Last edited by Missing-Dog; 22-11-2012, 11:13 PM.

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                    • mjp
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7363

                      Re: Predict who we will draft

                      Originally posted by paulv
                      mjp, I don't think anyone is arguing that the kid can't play. Clearly he has prodigious talent.
                      The problem lies in the fact that we are talking about a team not an individual sport.
                      Yep. I know all of that.

                      When you have a player who conducted himself impeccably in a team environment though - AND delivered the goods on the field - then why is he being dismissed?

                      Were the instagram photos his greatest ever idea? I wouldn't have thought so, no. But none of that means he isn't team focussed or that he doesn't train hard. They are a sign of immaturity and the fact that Dayle still doesn't 'GET' a lot of stuff, but for goodness sake.
                      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                      • The Bulldogs Bite
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11245

                        Re: Predict who we will draft

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        Yep. I know all of that.

                        When you have a player who conducted himself impeccably in a team environment though - AND delivered the goods on the field - then why is he being dismissed?

                        Were the instagram photos his greatest ever idea? I wouldn't have thought so, no. But none of that means he isn't team focussed or that he doesn't train hard. They are a sign of immaturity and the fact that Dayle still doesn't 'GET' a lot of stuff, but for goodness sake.
                        I agree - unless of course there's something more to it.

                        Will you be in contact with him mjp?
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                        • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8962

                          Re: Predict who we will draft

                          With GWS taking Jack Frost at pick 83 is there any chance that this is why we decided to pass at pick 84?
                          Anyone know if he was on our radar?

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                          • soupman
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 5113

                            Re: Predict who we will draft

                            Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                            With GWS taking Jack Frost at pick 83 is there any chance that this is why we decided to pass at pick 84?
                            Anyone know if he was on our radar?
                            That was Jack Frost's brother Sam, who was promoted from the rookie list. As if the AFL would allow a situation where GWS use a pick that late.
                            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                            • mjp
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7363

                              Re: Predict who we will draft

                              Originally posted by theimmortalmike
                              Fair enough have a crack at the poster for comparing Garlett to those morons but is it really necessary or constructive to bring up every hit or miss our club has made in the draft? It's a little Facebook for my taste.
                              Probably not. But to be fair, I didn't start it. I was told the poster was happy to trust the footy department and wanted to ask what that opinion was based on. The players I listed were draft picks and rookie elevations over the past couple of seasons who have not given me much confidence in the footy and recruiting department - and further, they were selections I screamed about at the time only to be told I should trust the club.

                              Right now I am very happy with the Stringer selection, so-so with the Macrae selection, unhappy with the Hrovat selection and bordering on extremely displeased with the Prudden selection. Stringer - and I have said this before - really is our Joel Selwood selection. Quality 16 yo who got injured and slipped down the rankings accordingly. We have either gotten the best player in the draft or a kid who will never overcome his injury fully...I actually suspect it is the former. Macrae might be OK and is classy but certainly has not 'done it' against high quality opposition for very long - I am worried about his ability to step up to the next level but can see what they were thinking here - basically I don't disagree with the selection.

                              With Hrovat and Prudden we seem to have gone for one scoop of plain vanilla (Hrovat) and another of wild cherry with triple flavor topping (Prudden). I don't understand these selections at all unless Hrovat has been picked with the idea that he might become a Picken like midfield tagger. But Metro favored Temay in that role so maybe not? Prudden? Just a roll of the dice on someone who just seems to be another player. Let me show my WA bias by suggesting if we wanted Prudden then why not Tim Kelly or even someone like Marvin Warrell who was also overlooked somehow. Both have better track records and Warrell in particular better hands and kicking skills. If you like JJ you would love Warrell.
                              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7363

                                Re: Predict who we will draft

                                Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                                I agree - unless of course there's something more to it.

                                Will you be in contact with him mjp?
                                He is/was with the guys at Swans tonight. Have spoken to Swans but not yet to Dayle - hopefully tomorrow...been a lot of players to talk to tonight (both happy and sad).
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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