Round 1, 2013 - Team

[Bornadog]

Re: Round 1, 2013 - Team

I think Murph is needed down back for his experience and run. A Freo supporter mate has a high regard for Nick Lower. In Round 22 against Sydney last year Addison added some grunt and 4 goals to the forward line, he gets a spot before Higgins for mine.

Addison is a fringe player and is not in our best 22 whereas a fully fit Higgins is all class.

[westbulldog]

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Wouldn't we all like to see Higgins, Jones, Cordy and Grant play to their full potential. It hasn't happened yet.

[Go_Dogs]

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Morris, Roughead, Wood
Lower, Williams, Picken
Wallis, Boyd, Cooney
Higgins, Jones, Murphy
Dahlhaus, Cordy, Dickson
Minson, Griffen, Liberatore
Cross, Smith, Stevens, Addison

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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Morris, Roughead, Wood
Lower, Williams, Picken
Wallis, Boyd, Cooney
Higgins, Jones, Murphy
Dahlhaus, Cordy, Dickson
Minson, Griffen, Liberatore
Cross, Smith, Stevens, Addison

Your line up looks good apart from the two key forwards Jones and Cordy who showed little to suggest that they are the answer to our attack woes. I would prefer to try Fletcher Roberts and Campbell who appear to have more upside than both Jones and Cordy.Stringer could give us something different in attack which has become our Achilles heel.
Moving Murphy forward is long overdue and would add class and experience. Wood could be better suited to a centre wing where his extra dash would help greater forward penetration. Cross now appears to do his best work in defence, where he might now be best placed.

[jeemak]

Re: Round 1, 2013 - Team

Your line up looks good apart from the two key forwards Jones and Cordy who showed little to suggest that they are the answer to our attack woes. I would prefer to try Fletcher Roberts and Campbell who appear to have more upside than both Jones and Cordy.Stringer could give us something different in attack which has become our Achilles heel.
Moving Murphy forward is long overdue and would add class and experience. Wood could be better suited to a centre wing where his extra dash would help greater forward penetration. Cross now appears to do his best work in defence, where he might now be best placed.

I think Cross would get murdered in defense, if played there in a set position. He's not quick enough and throughout his career I've never regarded him as a one on one defender outside of midfeild shutdown roles.

He'd add value cutting across half back due to his excellent ability to go back with the flight and put his body on the line, though if that was his role I think it would stifle development of other midfielders in a team where the midfeild needs to learn to take on teams on their merits.

Sure you don't rate Cordy and Jones, though I can't see how either have been trumped to this point in terms of upside by Roberts or Campbell in forward roles. What about the latter two gives you the confidence they will overtake the former? Was it a particular game for each, or just a hunch, or gut feel?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 1, 2013 - Team

B Dale Morris Jordan Roughead Liam Picken
HB Easton Wood Tom Williams Shaun Higgins
C Daniel Cross Matthew Boyd Ryan Griffen
HF Luke Dahlhaus Liam Jones Robert Murphy
F Dylan Addison Tory Dickson Jarrad Grant

R Will Minson Adam Cooney Tom Liberatore

BNCH Clay Smith Daniel Giansiracusa
Tom Campbell Mitch Wallis

Backup
Patrick Veszpremi
Michael Talia
Lukas Markovic
Mark Austin
Christian Howard
Brett Goodes
Jason Tutt
Ayce Cordy
Nick Lower
Tom Young
Koby Stevens

Development
Alex Greenwood
Daniel Pearce
Fletcher Roberts
Jack Redpath
Jackson Macrae
Jake Stringer
Jason Johannisen
Joshua Prudden
Lachlan Hunter
Lin Jong
Nathan Hrovat

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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I think Cross would get murdered in defense, if played there in a set position. He's not quick enough and throughout his career I've never regarded him as a one on one defender outside of midfeild shutdown roles.

He'd add value cutting across half back due to his excellent ability to go back with the flight and put his body on the line, though if that was his role I think it would stifle development of other midfielders in a team where the midfeild needs to learn to take on teams on their merits.

Sure you don't rate Cordy and Jones, though I can't see how either have been trumped to this point in terms of upside by Roberts or Campbell in forward roles. What about the latter two gives you the confidence they will overtake the former? Was it a particular game for each, or just a hunch, or gut feel?

I appreciated your response. The only two effective forwards we had last year were Dickson and Dahlhaus which was the major factor in being whitewashed in our last 11 games. I thought both Cordy and Jones were given plenty of opportunities and didn't improve one iota. Grant similarly was most disappointing. Campbell should be played as a back up ruckman to Minson. Roberts on what I saw of him at Williamstown looks a far better prospect than either Jones or Cordy.The keenness of the MC to recruit a Dawes or Gumbleton to me was out of sheer desperation to what was served up in 2012.

[Bornadog]

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Bump

Best Guess

JJ Roughead Morris
Lower Young Goodes
Griffen Boyd Cooney
Gia Murphy Dickson
Dahlhaus Jones Higgins

Minson Wallis Liberatore

Int: Picken Smith Cross
Sub: Stevens

Williams, Wood assume injured. Assume Higgins is ok and Jones and Cordy interchangeable.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Round 1, 2013 - Team

JJ Roughead Picken
Stevens Morris Goodes
Griffen Boyd Lower
Murphy Jones Dickson
Gia Cordy Dahlhaus

Minson Wallis Liberatore

Int: Smith Cross Cooney
Sub: Higgins


There are a few options, but I would see Lower as a certainty for the main tagging role.
Roughead will play on Brown and Morris the next tall. Young a chance because we need some extra height in the back half.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: Round 1, 2013 - Team

Round 1 2012 saw Clay Smith and Josh Hill play well but Josh for the opposition. Supporters were hoping Koby Stevens would be selected but for the Eagles.
Our team was:
FB - Murphy, Lake, Addison
HB - Hargrave, Markovic, Howard
C - Cross, Smith, Wood
HF - Giansiracusa, Jones, Cooney
FF - Dickson, Roughead, Higgins
FOL – Minson, Boyd, Picken
INT – Grant, Panos, Veszpremi, Djerrkura, Wallis, Liberatore, Dahlhaus
For arguments sake here’s Greystache’s go at our next round 1 team, as I haven’t worked one out atm:
Greystache
B- Morris, Roughead, Wood

HB- Johannisen, Talia, Stevens

C- Picken, Cooney, Griffen

HF- Murphy, Williams, Dalhaus

F- Higgins Dickson Cross*

R- Minson, Wallis, Boyd

Int- Campbell, Addison, Smith, Libba

* Cross as +1 defender

So…not a single line is the same and with the exception of only Minson and Boyd, no one is in the same position! As we know we’re in a great time of change. The half back line is new and not established and it is asking a lot of the team just to be competitive. We need some magic and magic happens.
Comparison:
Greystache
B- Morris, Roughead, Wood

HB- Johannisen, Talia, Stevens

C- Picken, Cooney, Griffen

HF- Murphy, Williams, Dalhaus

F- Higgins Dickson Cross*

R- Minson, Wallis, Boyd

Int- Campbell, Addison, Smith, Libba

* Cross as +1 defender
Gogriff
Addison Morris Lower
Wood Roughead Picken
Griffen Boyd Cooney
Murphy Williams Dickson
Dahlhaus Stringer Higgins

Minson Wallis Liberatore

Int: Hrovat Giansiracusa Cross
Sub: Stevens

Bulldog Joe
Addison Roughead Morris
Wood Williams Murphy
Griffen Boyd Picken
Higgins Jones Dickson
Dahlhaus Cordy Gia
Minson Wallis Liberatore

Int: Cooney Smith Cross
Sub: Johannisen F’scray
B: “DFA” Addison, “Pretty Boy” Roughead, “The Human Glove” Morris
HB: “Norwegian” Wood, Tom “L” Williams, Nick “Cruel to be Kind” Lower
C: “Lightening” Johannisen, “Bill n’” Boyd (c), “Cotton” Picken
HF: “The Coon Dog” Cooney, The Jones Boy, Bob Murphy
FF: “Professor” Higgins, “The Ace in the Pack” Cordy Jnr, “Dolly Dreadlocks” Dahlhaus
R: “Big” Will Minson, Ryan “Go” Griffen, Wallis Jnr
Int: Libba Jnr, “Pigeon” Smith, “Kris” Cross, Tory “Spelling” Dickson (s)

I’ll go with
B MORRIS ROUGHIE WOOD
HB JOHANISSEN TALIA LOWER
C COONEY BOYD GRIFFEN
HF MURPHY WILLIAMS DALHAUS
F HIGGINS CORDY GIANSIRACUSA
FOLL MINSON LIBBA WALLIS
INT HROVAT CROSS GRANT
SUB: K. STEVENS

No Picken?

[Cyberdoggie]

Re: Round 1, 2013 - Team

JJ Roughead Picken
Stevens Morris Goodes
Griffen Boyd Lower
Murphy Jones Dickson
Gia Cordy Dahlhaus

Minson Wallis Liberatore

Int: Smith Cross Cooney
Sub: Higgins


There are a few options, but I would see Lower as a certainty for the main tagging role.
Roughead will play on Brown and Morris the next tall. Young a chance because we need some extra height in the back half.

I'd say that would be pretty close. Stevens is the injury concern, and Young might have to come in for match ups, i haven't had a good look at Brisbane so far this year and what they are doing with their forwards.
Can't see any first year players sneaking in to the side unless they want to put Macrae as the sub if Higgins or other player is injured.

I'm tipping this to be very close to the team.

[Remi Moses]

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My team also . Macrae in for Higgins,as players who lack match practice are a risk in round 1.

[SlimPickens]

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Back 6
JJ Goodes Morris Young Picken Roughy

Picken on Green, Rough on Brown, Morris on Cornelius and Young on Martin.

Mids- Minson Libba Boyd Griffen Wallis Stevens

Forwards- Murph Jones Gia Cordy Dickson Dahl

Bench- Cross Lower Smith Cooney

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 1, 2013 - Team

B Goodes Roughead JJ

HB Morris Markovic Cross

C Griffen Boyd Cooney

HF Murphy Jones Dahlhaus

F Gia Cordy Dickson

R Minson Wallis Lower

INT Libba Picken Koby Sub Higgo

[Ozza]

Re: Round 1, 2013 - Team

B: Goodes; Roughead; Markovic
HB: Lower; Morris; Picken
C: Griffen; Boyd; Wallis
HF: Higgins; Jones; Murphy
F: Dickson; Cordy; Dahlhaus
R: Minson; Cooney; Liberatore
Int: Cross; Smith; Gia; Stevens

JJ probably stiff and Marko lucky - but I suspect we'll need the height against Brisbane. Would love to see Stringer Macrae or Hrovat play...and am not too keen on Cordy, but a 2nd ruck is necessary if he can actually go in there at times.