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  • Bulldog4life
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 9607

    Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

    Originally posted by paulv
    Now re the discussion on Boydy. Why is everybody so quick to assume that while the rest of the team seems to have improved over the off season our captain will not have also?
    Not everybody Paul.

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    • Greystache
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Dec 2009
      • 9775

      Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

      Originally posted by paulv
      Now re the discussion on Boydy. Why is everybody so quick to assume that while the rest of the team seems to have improved over the off season our captain will not have also?
      It was only NAB cup but his disposal actually looked worse than previous years during the preseason.
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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

        Originally posted by Mantis
        If he has been 'switched on' for the last 6 years why did he lose 6-8kgs over the last pre-season?
        If he stopped being lazy at age 23 he would still have needed a a few years to get into half decent shape ( but not AFL condition ) another few years to prove himself, then finally, the coach has taken a leap of faith and he's got himself into top gear. And now, 29. As you say Mantis, 8 kg is a lot of weight for a professional athlete.
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44343

          Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

          Good for you B4l. Keep the faith.

          G'stache. He was hardly Robinson Crusoe being rusty in disposal during the NOB Cup and pre season.

          I seriously doubt he would have been reappointed skipper if his team mates or coaches felt he was going to be a drag or handicap to the team's chances of improving over 2013.
          Trust in our brains trust. Clearly they see Boyd as an asset.

          Aside from anything else, if he has possession 30-40 times a match, that is a lot of time the opposition does not get the ball. And if at worst his disposal efficiency is only 50-55%, that is still 15-20+ times per match that it successfully goes to a team mate, and that number of positive disposals would be regarded as pretty good for a lesser player [ IE if a new player came in and passed to a team mate that many times in a match we would be hailing him as a young gun].
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          • boydogs
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 5842

            Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

            Originally posted by paulv
            Aside from anything else, if he has possession 30-40 times a match, that is a lot of time the opposition does not get the ball. And if at worst his disposal efficiency is only 50-55%, that is still 15-20+ times per match that it successfully goes to a team mate, and that number of positive disposals would be regarded as pretty good for a lesser player [ IE if a new player came in and passed to a team mate that many times in a match we would be hailing him as a young gun].
            That's not really the equation though, the turnovers can be very costly.

            We also know Boyd's game is focused on attack and often he goes head to head with his opponent rather than trying to stop them winning the ball. With Lower, Stevens & Cooney impressing and Clay Smith being forced into being the sub before Boyd even comes into the side, questions will be asked.
            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21590

              Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

              Originally posted by Mantis
              If he has been 'switched on' for the last 6 years why did he lose 6-8kgs over the last pre-season?
              I'd say the major factor is diet control.

              Once you're training for a spot on an AFL list you pretty much tick all boxes (if you want to succeed), and diet is the big one.

              Even if you're a pisshead you can still lose a lot of weight with a lean diet. I don't think Brett was or is a pisshead, so it would be easy enough for him with a bit of commitment.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66182

                Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                Originally posted by paulv
                Now re the discussion on Boydy. Why is everybody so quick to assume that while the rest of the team seems to have improved over the off season our captain will not have also?
                Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                Not everybody Paul.
                +1

                Supporters tend to focus on the few errors rather than the whole game, pretty poor really.
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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6924

                  Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                  Cordy and Jones really highlighted the difference between playing in a good or bad team/structure on Saturday.

                  Neither had stand out games but it was so much easier for them than last year, especially Cordy. Jones had a stinker IMO but still ended up with 3 shots on goal.

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                  • Rocco Jones
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6924

                    Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    +1

                    Supporters tend to focus on the few errors rather than the whole game, pretty poor really.
                    Yeah with you there too mate. Sometimes it's just time to be positive. Not winning for what 280 days? Then beating a side by 68 points in Round 1, that sounds about the time to me.

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                    • Missing Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8501

                      Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      Cordy and Jones really highlighted the difference between playing in a good or bad team/structure on Saturday.

                      Neither had stand out games but it was so much easier for them than last year, especially Cordy. Jones had a stinker IMO but still ended up with 3 shots on goal.
                      I thought Jones was outstanding his pressure on the ball handler and protecting the little blokes was top notch think you are a bit unfair here Rocco.

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                        Originally posted by gogriff
                        That's not really the equation though, the turnovers can be very costly.

                        We also know Boyd's game is focused on attack and often he goes head to head with his opponent rather than trying to stop them winning the ball. With Lower, Stevens & Cooney impressing and Clay Smith being forced into being the sub before Boyd even comes into the side, questions will be asked.
                        Wood is the other one. He's good at the blind bomb. Did we miss him??
                        Grant, Tutt, wonder what the coach thinks of these guys?
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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                          Originally posted by strebla
                          I thought Jones was outstanding his pressure on the ball handler and protecting the little blokes was top notch think you are a bit unfair here Rocco.
                          Agree, not many stats but there was a concerted effort to keep Merrett out of the play.
                          He reads the game like Lake does and is great in the air.

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                          • Bulldog Joe
                            Premiership Moderator
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5512

                            Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                            I'm in the camp that believe Jones was a good contributor. Competed well knocked the ball out and was involved.
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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21590

                              Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              Wood is the other one. He's good at the blind bomb. Did we miss him??
                              Grant, Tutt, wonder what the coach thinks of these guys?
                              Tutt was named emergency.

                              Grant's seemingly in a bit of strife, and will want to put in some early form at Williamstown.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                                He reads the game like Lake does and is great in the air.
                                ?
                                He constantly runs under the ball and Did he even take one mark in the air against the Lions?
                                I know we are hating Lake at the moment but Jones is a fair way off Lake as far as reading the ball in concerned.
                                I'm not one of the guys that have given up on Jones, but I am getting close. I hope he can turn it on and have a breakout year this year.

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