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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9874

    #61
    Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

    Originally posted by AndrewP6
    I'm going to assume you're joking. It was great weather, in and out of the sun.
    Playing in the sun is pretty taxing, 22 and sunny while out on the ground running can sap you pretty quickly yesterday was much hotter. I'm exaggerating on the 2kgs lost but it was bloody hot late in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Even some of the Freo boys who are used to hotter weather looked very tired in the 4th.

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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      #62
      Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

      Originally posted by G-Mo77
      Playing in the sun is pretty taxing, 22 and sunny while out on the ground running can sap you pretty quickly yesterday was much hotter. I'm exaggerating on the 2kgs lost but it was bloody hot late in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Even some of the Freo boys who are used to hotter weather looked very tired in the 4th.
      Originally posted by Maddog37
      That was very hot for footy. Freo would have enjoyed it.
      Fair enough, agree to disagree. I think professional athletes with enormous resources at their disposal to hone their physical condition, should have no trouble playing in moderately warm conditions.
      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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      • G-Mo77
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Apr 2007
        • 9874

        #63
        Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

        Originally posted by AndrewP6
        Fair enough, agree to disagree. I think professional athletes with enormous resources at their disposal to hone their physical condition, should have no trouble playing in moderately warm conditions.
        Don't doubt that at all but your idea of a nice sunny day is like a 35+ degrees running around on the field. Recovery may take a little longer for some who did a lot of work so it wouldn't surprise me if someone had a breather.

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        • The Pie Man
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2008
          • 3498

          #64
          Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          With this coach, if players improve steadily according to his estimation of their schedule, the odd match day fail doesn't register.

          Between hiring Cam Mooney, Brad Johnson and Ben Graham, you would expect his finishing is anon-negotiable improvement we would want to see. Part of it is tiredness in the legs I guess, but from less than 30m out it's very frustrating to watch balls going wayward, particularly when so much effort has gone into the play down the ground.

          I'll put it out there, that Ayce has the potential to be a future leader of this club. Perhaps not captain, but someone people will trust to stand up when it counts. And if you think that's a big call, look how many posters wanted Minson gone a few seasons ago.

          Big blokes just take more time.
          Keep hearing this, and I think most footy fans would share this view.

          Here's the thing with Ayce - he's 4 months off being 23. Is he not a man now?

          Enough of the development lines..if he can't contribute (and for the first 2 1/2 quarters he was just awful) then he shouldn't be playing. Play Campbell if we absolutely must play 2 ruckmen.

          Still can't believe we gave Cordy 3 years, just baffling
          Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14890

            #65
            Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

            Originally posted by The Pie Man
            Keep hearing this, and I think most footy fans would share this view.

            Here's the thing with Ayce - he's 4 months off being 23. Is he not a man now?

            Enough of the development lines..if he can't contribute (and for the first 2 1/2 quarters he was just awful) then he shouldn't be playing. Play Campbell if we absolutely must play 2 ruckmen.

            Still can't believe we gave Cordy 3 years, just baffling
            How many ruck/forwards were dominating in game 15?
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • mjp
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7336

              #66
              Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

              I have to admit to not understanding much of the Cordy love that followed the Lions game, but rest assured everyone seems to have lost the faith following the Fremantle game. (You could also insert the name Giansiracusa in place of Cordy in that previous statement.)

              I don't mean to state the obvious but the Dockers are just better than us at the moment and their defensive structures made Josh Kennedy look pretty inept for large periods of the week one game - as for Josh Hill, well, he couldn't get near it. I think everyone will happily acknowledge Kennedy is a good forward.

              Yes - the individuals in question need to play better, but to suggest that he (they) have no future just one week after he (they) contributed pretty well is crazy talk. There is still an article on the homepage with a heading that reads something like 'McCartney praises Cordy' at the moment.

              We need Boyd to come in - but that creates a bit of an issue as we already have too many inside players. We actually already need to add a Tutt or Macrae to the mix...which means we already needed to 'lose' an inside mid...which means we now need to lose TWO.

              Now - Cross played HB against Richmond a few weeks back - is there a chance that might happen again? If so, well, we have some flexibility and we could look to leave out any of a number of players - if he is strictly a mid well, Higgins probably has to be left out. That's it for me. Smith out, Boyd in. Higgins out, Macrae in.

              We simply need more run - winning the clearances is fine but we need more outside run.
              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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              • F'scary
                WOOF Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 4089

                #67
                Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                Originally posted by mjp
                I have to admit to not understanding much of the Cordy love that followed the Lions game, but rest assured everyone seems to have lost the faith following the Fremantle game. (You could also insert the name Giansiracusa in place of Cordy in that previous statement.)
                Let me say that I absolutely never got on the Cordy bandwagon after last week. Likewise Gia. Therefore, agree. Drop Cordy. Drop Gia. Bring in Stringer at FF.

                Originally posted by mjp
                Smith out, Boyd in.
                I would play Smith in Gia's spot against Crapmond.


                Originally posted by mjp
                Higgins out, Macrae in.
                Yes, agree. Let's go with an outside runner, as opposed to a front runner.
                Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                • Beast

                  #68
                  Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                  I'd really like to see Easton Wood back in the team. However, the backs at the moment seem to be working quite well. JJ is fast and has creative flair and should keep playing. Young is solid and has poise under pressure. Perhaps it's a crazy notion, but if fit, is it possible to introduce Wood into the froward line replacing either Jones or Cordy? Wood is a good mark, pretty fast, has good endurance, provides a contest, and doesn't mind tackling. His main problem is erratic disposal under pressure which is critical in the back half but is perhaps less of a problem up forward. Ultimately, I'd like to see Williams in the forward line too. I like Jones and Cordy but neither of them have quite clicked yet.

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                  • The Pie Man
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2008
                    • 3498

                    #69
                    Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    How many ruck/forwards were dominating in game 15?
                    Not many, but that's not my expectation.

                    He played ok last week...not dominant, but he contributed. If he can produce a similar output in more games than not then he is worth the spot. Yesterday was sadly like many of his games from last season, which isn't up to standard.
                    Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                    • always right
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 4189

                      #70
                      Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                      Originally posted by Beast
                      I'd really like to see Easton Wood back in the team. However, the backs at the moment seem to be working quite well. JJ is fast and has creative flair and should keep playing. Young is solid and has poise under pressure. Perhaps it's a crazy notion, but if fit, is it possible to introduce Wood into the froward line replacing either Jones or Cordy? Wood is a good mark, pretty fast, has good endurance, provides a contest, and doesn't mind tackling. His main problem is erratic disposal under pressure which is critical in the back half but is perhaps less of a problem up forward. Ultimately, I'd like to see Williams in the forward line too. I like Jones and Cordy but neither of them have quite clicked yet.
                      Collingwood have moved Harry to the wing. Any reason why we can't do the same with Wood?
                      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #71
                        Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                        Originally posted by Beast
                        I'd really like to see Easton Wood back in the team. However, the backs at the moment seem to be working quite well. JJ is fast and has creative flair and should keep playing. Young is solid and has poise under pressure. Perhaps it's a crazy notion, but if fit, is it possible to introduce Wood into the froward line replacing either Jones or Cordy? Wood is a good mark, pretty fast, has good endurance, provides a contest, and doesn't mind tackling. His main problem is erratic disposal under pressure which is critical in the back half but is perhaps less of a problem up forward. Ultimately, I'd like to see Williams in the forward line too. I like Jones and Cordy but neither of them have quite clicked yet.
                        Hey Beast. Dig your Avatar by the way.
                        Nice left field suggestion. Not a bad idea. No worries on the actual distance Wood can boot the thing. Goes for miles! often to an opposition player ahem...never mind, but that won't be a problem kicking for goal will it?
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • The Bulldogs Bite
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11162

                          #72
                          Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                          My confidence in Wood in defense is low. He has some quality traits but he's often out of position and/or jumps too early in a contest whilst his man stays on the ground. To be honest, I think the perception of Wood being a good defender is on the back of that game in the wet v Adelaide a few years back when he touched up Tippet a few times, and the Collingwood game last year.

                          I'd like to see Wood moved further up the ground, although he may not have the foot skills/decision making for midfield.
                          W00F!

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                          • Nuggety Back Pocket
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2064

                            #73
                            Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                            Their midfield is as good as the Dockers. But we were outdone tactically yesterday. I wouldn't put it past Brendan to be quietly glad we lost that game, in order to learn a good lesson.
                            You can hardly blame the coach when you had a forward line that was so inept .The only positive was Dahlhaus with little other support.

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                            • Beast

                              #74
                              Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              Hey Beast. Dig your Avatar by the way.
                              Nice left field suggestion. Not a bad idea. No worries on the actual distance Wood can boot the thing. Goes for miles! often to an opposition player ahem...never mind, but that won't be a problem kicking for goal will it?
                              Despite his flaws, Wood has more physical presence than either Cordy or Jones and is an uberdwarf compared to Dixon, Gia, Higgins, and Dahlhaus.

                              btw - the avatar is a clip from an old disgraceful painting in my living room.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #75
                                Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                                In: Boyd
                                Out: Smith

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