Three things I've learned - Round 3

[Greystache]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

Can't believe anyone would question the fact that Minson was soundly beaten around the ground today. Saying he had more hitoutsas a defense of the argument is so awfully flawed.

He has to be terrible for some posters to even leave him out of their best players. He and his impact on games is very overrated by a lot our supporters. Outside of our club his isn't highly rated and neither is he by our coaching staff judging by best and fairest results.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

1. If we keep playing Higgins and Gia in the same forward line we will struggle.

2. Roughy is going to be an All-Australian full back one day.

3. Griffen could very well be the next skipper.

[Happy Days]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

1. Jones needs to have the ball kicked to him more

2. We go to shit under any pressure and don't seem interested in returning the favour, particularly around the half forward line

3. Dickson is still 48 goals away from the 50 that was banded around

[LostDoggy]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

1 - Cordy is miles ahead of Campbell and is our genuine no 2 ruck / resting forward (and this thought does not thrill me)

2 - I guess I knew, but had it confirmed - Higgins, Dickson and Gia in the fwd line is a very slow non competitive unit that will be carved a new one by good defences (this thought can be rectified with the introduction of youth - yes Stringer and Macrae and even Grant - at least Grant is quick)

3 - That Tom Young is not a bad player.

[Happy Days]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

Maric had 8 hitouts to advantage and several that directly resulted in goals. Minson had 6 and gave us nothing around the ground for the second week in a row. Teams are starting to exploit his lack of ability once the ball's been bounced. The generic hit out stat is the most useless in all of football.

1. Our midsized forwards are one effort players that pay on their terms, I'd hoped it would change. It hasn't

2. Jones showed something to really build on

3. Picken should tag or play forward, he's a liability anywhere else.

This guy gets it

[westdog54]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

3 - That Tom Young is not a bad player.

Its taken you 3 games?

Harsh

[Bornadog]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

Maric had 8 hitouts to advantage and several that directly resulted in goals. Minson had 6 and gave us nothing around the ground for the second week in a row. Teams are starting to exploit his lack of ability once the ball's been bounced. The generic hit out stat is the most useless in all of football.

So two extra to advantage that is a really thrashing by Maric

[LostDoggy]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

Its taken you 3 games?

Harsh

Honestly first game I've managed to get to live...like his overhead work, seems reasonable pace, and not a bad user

[Greystache]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

So two extra to advantage that is a really thrashing by Maric

Is it really that hard to understand?

Minson was easily beaten around the ground again. Your defence was at least he won the hit outs when in actual fact he lost that part of the contest too. The generic hit out stat is pointless as an indication of how well a ruckman has played. I can't possibly simplify this any further.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

Is it really that hard to understand?

Minson was easily beaten around the ground again. Your defence was at least he won the hit outs when in actual fact he lost that part of the contest too. The generic hit out stat is pointless as an indication of how well a ruckman has played. I can't possibly simplify this any further.

The easiest way to explain it - Aaron Sandilands. For so long dominated the ruck for very little reward at Freo

[Bornadog]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

Is it really that hard to understand?

Minson was easily beaten around the ground again. Your defence was at least he won the hit outs when in actual fact he lost that part of the contest too. The generic hit out stat is pointless as an indication of how well a ruckman has played. I can't possibly simplify this any further.

I was responding to the post that Maric took Minson to the cleaners, which is simply not true. Hitouts is still an important stat for a ruckman and yes they have to do more around the ground. Not sure why you say the words again? If you are referring to last week then you are off the mark.

[Greystache]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

I was responding to the post that Maric took Minson to the cleaners, which is simply not true. Hitouts is still an important stat for a ruckman and yes they have to do more around the ground. Not sure why you say the words again? If you are referring to last week then you are off the mark.

He was absoloutely taken to the cleaners today by Maric. Killed around the ground and beaten in the ruck. Just as he was beaten around the ground last week.

If simply getting a hand on the ball as one of the two players who can contest a ball up is enough for you then I guess we have vastly different expectations on what a ruckman should accomplish. He has taken a total of 2 marks in the past 2 games, that is beyond poor.

He wasn't in the clubs best ten players last season according to the coaches and I wouldn't have him in the top ten again based on his efforts this season.

[SlimPickens]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

I was responding to the post that Maric took Minson to the cleaners, which is simply not.

Actually it is BAD. Minson was destroyed by Maric. To me Minsons lack of work rate compared to Maric really cost him, you've offered a hitout stat to back your argument which really showed us nothing.

Maric had 18 touches to Minsons 11. Maric had 9 marks to Minsons 1. Maric had 6 clearances to Minsons 3.

Minson was comprehensibly beaten around the ground by Maric, hitouts really show us nothing of the whole picture.

[westbulldog]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

An injury free Adam Cooney is back to his best.
Liam Jones can kick straight.
Our forward line needs an injection of pace.

[Topdog]

Re: Three things I've learned - Round 3

Our best is decent but our worst is horrible.
Too one paced all over the ground.
Not good enough at holding tackles.