Game Day - R6 West Coast v Western Bulldogs

[azabob]

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Anyone else see the Maccas press conference? Definitely more frustration than usual

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/vi...d6.workstation

He was wasn't he? Interesting he again commented about the senior blokes and how they let the side down.

Will be intersting to see what our side looks like second half of 2013.

[angelopetraglia]

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We are a few years behind them. Stats from yesterday.

Average Attributes
West Coast Attribute Western Bulldogs
189.1cm Height 187.1cm
89.3kg Weight 86.7kg
25yr 1mth Age 23yr 8mth
92.0 Games 61.3

Total Players By Games
West Coast Games Western Bulldogs
6 Less than 50 15
9 50 to 99 2
4 100 to 149 1
3 150 or more 4

[LostDoggy]

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He was wasn't he? Interesting he again commented about the senior blokes and how they let the side down.

Will be intersting to see what our side looks like second half of 2013.

15 players less than 50 games, kind of narrows down the field on who he was unimpressed with

Cross
Boyd
Addison
Picken
Cooney
Minson
Lower
Morris

Doesn't leave much room to guess who is annoyed with. You would think Minson was good.

Perhaps he is finally losing patience with the above. Interesting they are all similar 'types' hard at it, but lacking pace, skill execution, composure and vision (Cooney and Minson excepted).

[Scraggers]

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15 players less than 50 games, kind of narrows down the field on who he was unimpressed with

Cross
Boyd
Addison
Picken
Cooney
Minson
Lower

Doesn't leave much room to guess who is annoyed with. You would think Minson was good.

Perhaps he is finally losing patience with the above. Interesting they are all similar 'types' hard at it, but lacking pace, skill execution, composure and vision (Cooney and Minson excepted).

From my vantage point (which was somewhat limited being behind the goals at ground level) I thought the bolded players held their own and did their job ... The top two names however ...

[Maddog37]

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I thought Boyd looked slow and frustrated/disinterested. He is either not 100% or father time is catching up to him.

[LostDoggy]

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One small area of Tutt's game i was impressed with was his Cooney-like running from packs once he had the ball to get space because, let's be honest, space is something we didn't have all day.

[Bulldog4life]

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One small area of Tutt's game i was impressed with was his Cooney-like running from packs once he had the ball to get space because, let's be honest, space is something we didn't have all day.

I agree. I think Tutty will improve as our team improves. Has speed and broke away a couple of times. Could have quite easily had 3 goals also. Ran hard to be the only player in the goal square when Stringer kicked his goal, missed a sitter and kicked a long shot. I think he needs to be persevered with.

[Greystache]

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I agree. I think Tutty will improve as our team improves. Has speed and broke away a couple of times. Could have quite easily had 3 goals also. Ran hard to be the only player in the goal square when Stringer kicked his goal, missed a sitter and kicked a long shot. I think he needs to be persevered with.

I agree with that. He has some afl attributes and is improving which is all you can expect, his contesting and defensive efforts have substantially improved. My patience with him isn't never ending but he's showing a bit at the moment.

[Ozza]

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I agree with that. He has some afl attributes and is improving which is all you can expect, his contesting and defensive efforts have substantially improved. My patience with him isn't never ending but he's showing a bit at the moment.

I agree also GS. Thought Tutt's game was better than a 9 possession game (as it was on paper). A horrible day to be playing half forward with the way we played - but he looks lively when he gets it, and I think his run could be a real benefit to us in future.

[Maddog37]

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He has speed and can kick with penetration. Should be one of the first picked.

[mjp]

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I went along - had a relatively enjoyable day. The Eegs are better than us at the moment and my low expectations (about pretty much everything) is making our performances a lot easier to deal with.

1/.We can all spray the 'old blokes' all we like but Cross and Boyd run hard and get to contests. They might not be impacting like they did, but they do hold things up/create a slow-down that should permit the cavalry to come. The cavalry doesn't always get there, but without them the dam wall would have completely burst and a 100 point loss would have just been the start.

2/.Stringer is exciting but is purely a one-effort player...and if he had missed that goal from the boundary he should have copped a spray - open team-mate in the corridor and I swear he didn't even look.

3/.Macrae is clever. Should be playing at half-back in the Bob Murphy role.

4/.Addison tries really hard. I have never been a fan but when you are wrong, you are wrong - he is best 22 in most teams in the comp - everyone needs someone like him (and doubly so in our case).

5/.Tutt is quite a good player who at least looks to take the game on. With him and Cooney running we actually threaten to breakaway at times...add Griff and we might have something. Eagles pressure skills were right up yesterday - getting clear was not easy and quick ineffective kicks (see Smith, Clay) were certainly the easy way to go. Tutt is worth persisting with (something I never thought I would say).

6/.Clay Smith is an effective enough forward and a determined tackler but his midfield spread is really lacking...fitness? Intent? I don't know. I think he is trying to bring rain with some of his kicks as well. I am still not convinced here - yes, he has 'something' and needs to play but given his running patterns I really think he would be better forward than midfield.

7/.Jones positioning off-the-ball is lacking - doesn't give himself a chance by continually walking towards the contest when the ball is 1.5 to 2 kicks away...that space he needs to lead into? He uses it up himself and makes the defenders job easy. Exciting when he jumps at the ball though.

8/.Having Wallis as the sub at Pattersons was simply crazy...you must get first hands at Subi to release your runners and Priddis had things his own way too often.

9/.Minson's performance - against Cox, Sinclair and Natanui - was epic.

10/.I have nothing against Christian Howard but I don't see why I have to watch him play football.

[EasternWest]

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4/.Addison tries really hard. I have never been a fan but when you are wrong, you are wrong - he is best 22 in most teams in the comp - everyone needs someone like him (and doubly so in our case).

I respect your opinion a lot mjp. The fact that you said this means a lot to me.

[whythelongface]

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Whilst obvious disappointed with the loss at least it was an improvement on our last performance against the West Coast in Perth.

Round 9 2011 - West Coast 172 v WB 52

Average games played per player: West Coast 85 v WB 89

Average age: West Coast 24 yrs 6 mths v WB 25 yrs 5 mths

Round 6 2013 - West Coast 137 v WB 67

Average games played: West Coast 92 v WB 61

Average age: 25 yrs 1 month v 23 yrs 8 months

These are telling statistics that really show where we are at. Whilst not pleased with the performance overall at least we hung in there and gave it a go. There were some really positive signs from the likes of Smith; Jones; Stringer; Macrae; Tutt; Roughead - players that are our future.

Of course after a relatively poor performance there are also many negatives that we can take out of the game but in reality we are a long way behind West Coast at this stage. Also McCartney will learn from this game. In hindsight we should have gone in with another tall defender and a 2nd ruckman.

Another statistic - when we played West Coast in 2010 and beat them by 60 in Perth our average games played was 126 compared to West Coast 49. Looking at their playing list from that day there were 10 to 12 players in the West Coast who lined up against us on the weekend. These 10 to 12 players have formed the nucleus of their team over the last couple of years. Hopefully our team can follow in their footsteps and develop together and improve as per the West Coast. This may not happen to our team but at least it gives us some hope.

[Remi Moses]

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Just proves how things change quickly.^^

[LostDoggy]

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I went along too. Generally all as expected. Some random thoughts:

Surprised with the number of Dogs fans.

The Eagles supporters really love their polo shirts. Everyone seemed to have one. Scarves not so much -- weather obviously.

Carlton mid-strength was a low point.

The Nic Nat love is enormous.