Helping Ayce Make It

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Helping Ayce Make It

I will try to compare apples.

202cm, 100kg
Mainly played basketball as a junior
Tall speculative type
High draft pick

The near identical player I can find is Kurt Tippett. He was drafted two years before Cordy. So you would need to compare Tippetts 2011 with Ayces 2013.

Tippett 2011:

31 goals in 18 games - this was his worst year for goal scoring averages since his rookie year (1.7 goals)
12.1 possies
4.7 marks

Ayce 2013:

5 goals in 5 games (1.0 goals)
8 possies
1.4 marks


Make of it what you will.

But BT you started this thread "Helping Ayce Make It". How does your post help Ayce make it? Should your post be on another thread?

[G-Mo77]

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Remember next year we will have our own VFL side and be minus Wood. Campbell would be the only issue

And I can't wait for 2014. Our kids aren't getting the games they need. They'll learn very little running around in the development league. We do have to wear some of the blame for that though.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Helping Ayce Make It

But BT you started this thread "Helping Ayce Make It". How does your post help Ayce make it? Should your post be on another thread?

Well, not everything I say is negative

I found it interesting that Tippett had something of a lower year in his comparative year. 4 more possies and three marks a game is more, but it is not way more. Take into account all Ayces injuries, including this year which Tippett didnt have to endure, and you could argue that while Ayces 2013 has been disappointing, it is this kind of thinking that the coaches are on about. Tippett is a gun, but had a lesser parallel year like Ayce is. Sure it's not quite as bad, but I'm trying my best to be 'half full', not 'half empty'.

What have I posted wrong, I don't understand. If its on the wrong thread, tell me which one it should be on. Cheers.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Helping Ayce Make It

Well, not everything I say is negative

I found it interesting that Tippett had something of a lower year in his comparative year. 4 more possies and three marks a game is more, but it is not way more. Take into account all Ayces injuries, including this year which Tippett didnt have to endure, and you could argue that while Ayces 2013 has been disappointing, it is this kind of thinking that the coaches are on about. Tippett is a gun, but had a lesser parallel year like Ayce is. Sure it's not quite as bad, but I'm trying my best to be 'half full', not 'half empty'.

What have I posted wrong, I don't understand. If its on the wrong thread, tell me which one it should be on. Cheers.

Good come back.

[FrediKanoute]

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The only other point I'd make re Ayce is that if he doesn't play FF who does? Marco is a hack, Grant is not interested. Redpath is being groomed in the backline and Roberts is injured/coming back from injury. Campbell is less of a forward than Ayce.

Given where we are we may as well play him. At some point the penny has to drop and he will have that break out game. I also think the injury to Williams this year has caused major problems with the team structure. Williams (though not a proven forward) was supposed to provide another tall option to stretch teams and take pressure off Ayce and Jones. His injury has robbed the side of this.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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The fact is whether all posters like it or not Ayce signed a 3 year contract with us last year. In my opinion...probably won't be too many agreeing with me.... I hope the Club perserveres with him for the remainder of the year as a forward cum ruckman. We have nothing to lose. The season is over for us. What is the point playing him as a ruckman in the VFL now when the Club has earmarked him for the full forward role for a while now. The ball coming into our forward line has been poor so we can't blame Jones & Cordy entirely. Next year if we trade or draft for a key forward well the jury will be out on Cordy then, but for the rest of the year we have nothing to lose....he might just surprise a few people.

With Minson taking ninety per cent of the ruck work there is little value in playing Cordy who clearly isn't a forward. The best we can hope for is that Minson survives another two years before making way for Cordy, who needs to improve dramatically if he was to eventually make it as a ruckman.

[anfo27]

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The only other point I'd make re Ayce is that if he doesn't play FF who does? Marco is a hack, Grant is not interested. Redpath is being groomed in the backline and Roberts is injured/coming back from injury. Campbell is less of a forward than Ayce.

Given where we are we may as well play him. At some point the penny has to drop and he will have that break out game. I also think the injury to Williams this year has caused major problems with the team structure. Williams (though not a proven forward) was supposed to provide another tall option to stretch teams and take pressure off Ayce and Jones. His injury has robbed the side of this.

Agree. You watch Ayce & think 'get rid of this kid he is hopeless' but who are the alternatives? As much as I dislike seeing Ayce out there I'd rather see him than Marko.

Ayce has been gifted games & it is time he started to help himself for a change!

[Dry Rot]

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His play is misunderstood.

Cordy is pioneering the ZEN style of key position forward play, winning games via the mind while taking zero marks, zero kicks and kicking zero goals.

In time, his genius will be properly recognised.

[LostDoggy]

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His play is misunderstood.

Cordy is pioneering the ZEN style of key position forward play, winning games via the mind while taking zero marks, zero kicks and kicking zero goals.

In time, his genius will be properly recognised.

May the force be with him

[LostDoggy]

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His play is misunderstood.

Cordy is pioneering the ZEN style of key position forward play, winning games via the mind while taking zero marks, zero kicks and kicking zero goals.

In time, his genius will be properly recognised.

Genius

If only his pained expression whenever he contests the ball transferred below his neck we may just have a player.

[Ghost Dog]

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The only other point I'd make re Ayce is that if he doesn't play FF who does? Marco is a hack, Grant is not interested. Redpath is being groomed in the backline and Roberts is injured/coming back from injury. Campbell is less of a forward than Ayce.

Given where we are we may as well play him. At some point the penny has to drop and he will have that break out game. I also think the injury to Williams this year has caused major problems with the team structure. Williams (though not a proven forward) was supposed to provide another tall option to stretch teams and take pressure off Ayce and Jones. His injury has robbed the side of this.

Not a tall option. But, Easton Wood - could be the Andy Walker of the Western Bulldogs.
And not trying to reach the half way square from the back line might save his hamstrings.