Skills - what is wrong with us?

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66820

    Skills - what is wrong with us?

    We would have to be the most unskilled side in the AFL. We have very few elite, or even good kickers, we fumble the ball, we hand pass at someone's feet.

    Why?

    Is it perceived pressure? Do we hurray our decision making? Are we scared we are going to stuff up and we do?

    Examples:

    * Tutt, can't pick up a ball cleanly

    * Stevens fumble fumble fumble.

    * Murphy - When he goes to the backline he can't kick to a player, misjudges the distance.

    * Kick outs from Full back - continually kick to the opposition.

    * field kicking, the worse in the AFL


    Is it the players? Is it the skills coaches not working on these areas to help our team?

    What can be done, its very frustrating.
    Last edited by Bornadog; 22-04-2014, 12:46 PM. Reason: spelling
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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #2
    Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

    Well Below average skills.
    Well below average spread + leads.
    Two factors together make us look rubbish.

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    • Eastdog
      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
      • Feb 2012
      • 18298

      #3
      Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

      Are players born with skills or can coaches help them learn how to be more skillful if they don't have the skills.
      Last edited by Eastdog; 07-07-2013, 12:29 AM.
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      • F'scary
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4089

        #4
        Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

        We have a tentativeness about everything we do at the moment. I think it is a lack of confidence. That's what has to be worked on. I remember Eade was confronted with this when he took over and in a fairly short space of time turned it around. The trick seemed to be adopting (what was at first) a very straight forward, instinctive style of play - didn't allow for too much time to think about things.
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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27656

          #5
          Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

          Originally posted by Eastdog
          Are players born with skills or can coaches help them learn how to be more skillful if they don't have the skills.

          Skills can be taught or we wouldn't have skills coaches in AFL football.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27656

            #6
            Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

            Originally posted by F'scary
            We have a tentativeness about everything we do at the moment. I think it is a lack of confidence. That's what has to be worked on. I remember Eade was confronted with this when he took over and in a fairly short space of time turned it around. The trick seemed to be adopting (what was at first) a very straight forward, instinctive style of play - didn't allow for too much time to think about things.

            Agreed. We react to situations ATM rather than be proactive.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Eastdog
              WOOF Communtiy Organiser
              • Feb 2012
              • 18298

              #7
              Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

              It really let us down today once again.
              "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66820

                #8
                Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

                Essendon really showed us how to move the ball from one end to the other. The only thing that kept us in the game was the pressure we applied
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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

                  There were plenty of passages where we did much the same thing though, just ran hard and passed by hand a lot, but unfortunately you only need one player not keeping up and it falls flat.

                  Many in the crowd screaming “Oh just KICK THE BLOODY THING!” but I felt every time we kicked it we turned it over, I was much happier seeing them run the ball forward.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #10
                    Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

                    From memory Grant had the ball kicked over his head 2 or 3 times leading with space on his opponent, and that's apart from poor decisions not to honour his lead. Once we can fix things like fwd 50 entries, scores will improve.
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                    • F'scary
                      WOOF Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 4089

                      #11
                      Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

                      It is not enough to be the hardest working team in the comp. We need some finesse.
                      Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #12
                        Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

                        I'm content with where we are at. Obviously I would love us to be fighting for premiership glory every year. But in reality, we are a club that has a small window of about 3-4 years of challenging for a premiership every 10 years. Until this equalization thing happens (if ever), we just have to wait a few more years before we really start to shine again.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #13
                          Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

                          Originally posted by Danstar
                          I'm content with where we are at. Obviously I would love us to be fighting for premiership glory every year. But in reality, we are a club that has a small window of about 3-4 years of challenging for a premiership every 10 years. Until this equalization thing happens (if ever), we just have to wait a few more years before we really start to shine again.
                          Very well said.

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                          • kruder
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2011
                            • 3867

                            #14
                            Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            We would have to be the most unskilled side in the AFL. We have very few elite, or even good kickers, we fumble the ball, we hand pass at someone's feet.

                            Why?

                            Is it perceived pressure? Do we hurray our decision making? Are we scared we are going to stuff up and we do?

                            Examples:

                            * Tutt, can't pick up a ball cleanly

                            * Stevens fumble fumble fumble.

                            * Murphy - When he goes to the backline he can't kick to a player, misjudges the distance.

                            * Kick outs from Full back - continually kick to the opposition.

                            * filed kicking, the worse in the AFL


                            Is the players? Is it the skills coaches not working on these areas to help oour team?

                            What can be doen, its very frustrating.
                            You missed one Coons is still fumbling from the weekend

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                            • Eastdog
                              WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 18298

                              #15
                              Re: Skills - what is wrong with us?

                              I have to say that our skill level still this year is not up to par. If only we were better in this area then we would be a much much better side. I'm just not sure how we go about fixing this problem.
                              "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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