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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66096

    Should we upgrade some rookies?

    We now have three players on the long term injury list and if you count Wood, four. Is it time to elavate a couple of rookies and see how they go.

    Specifically: Jong, Greenwood and Redpath. At this stage I wouldn't be upgrading Austin.

    Jong has shown a bit in the backline, certainly has speed, decision making needs working on. Alex Greenwood, is raw but has played some good games and Redpath can be trialled at Fullback and therefore releasing Roughead to play forward/Second ruck?

    Thoughts?
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    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9873

    #2
    Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

    Austin is already elevated isn't he? If he's back on the Rookie list it's a no from me.

    Jong will get a game before the season ends. I have very little doubt on that.

    Redpath? Well why not? Really what do we have to lose? He's gone to the back half in the VFL and has done pretty well from reports.

    Greenwood again why not.

    I'd still like to see what Fletch has to offer as well as maybe Prudden (when healthy), Pearce will also likely get a call up very soon. However if a rookie is playing good footy then I don't see why not leapfrog the listed players.

    The only positive out of these LTI's is the ripple effect it will cause. It will get some of our players in the VFL seniors where they belong.

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15207

      #3
      Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

      Honestly I'm not sure what point of difference Jong offers us? He has no regard for his safety and needs to work on his decision making and disposal.

      Without having seen Redpath only reading the thoughts of posters and German it is hard to tell what to do with him. By all accounts he is going well as a defender so why not try him?

      Redpath is the only one I would consider, and even with him Im not sure he is worth a shot. As another poster said Roberts should get a go before big Jack.
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66096

        #4
        Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

        Originally posted by azabob
        Honestly I'm not sure what point of difference Jong offers us? He has no regard for his safety and needs to work on his decision making and disposal.
        He does crack in

        Seriously though, he has speed, goes in hard and showed he can play at this level. With JJ going down we do need some speed coming out of the backline. Down side is his disposal.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15207

          #5
          Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

          Originally posted by bornadog
          He does crack in

          Seriously though, he has speed, goes in hard and showed he can play at this level. With JJ going down we do need some speed coming out of the backline. Down side is his disposal.
          Good point about his pace. Hopefully he has worked on his disposal over summer.

          How we long for the days and precision kicking of Gilbee, Hargrave and the like...
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            #6
            Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

            I wouldn't say I'm against it. But I would like to know what attributes they possess which is not currently on the list. If they have something we don't have, then it's very little risk for potential reward.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • westdog54
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6683

              #7
              Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

              Originally posted by azabob
              Good point about his pace. Hopefully he has worked on his disposal over summer.

              How we long for the days and precision kicking of Gilbee, Hargrave and the like...
              Its worth noting that Young is still to come back and the composure and decision making he showed early on has, in my view, been greatly missed.

              Having said that, I wouldn't mind seeing Lin getting another crack and what Big Jack is capable of.

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10110

                #8
                Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

                If Redpath can have a few more reasonable games at VFL level and continue to work on a few areas of his game I wouldn't be against getting him into the senior side to see how he can handle himself at the next level up.

                Jong I think is still a while off being a player at AFL level, but again, if his form warrants it over the next few weeks I can see merit in him getting a game as he has the physical attributes that could see him become a player. I'm just as happy for him to continue to develop at VFL level though.

                Greenwood must still be someway off for mine. He ticks a few boxes, but at his size he really needs to be knocking the door down and I don't think he's quite there yet and I think his physical attributes make him less likely to succeed at the higher level. Again though, if his form is good over the next few weeks why not.

                The reality is, we don't have much to lose at the moment but I think we must only give games to those we see have some potential to play senior footy next year and if we believe that getting some games into them this year will be of significant benefit to their development.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • boydogs
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5842

                  #9
                  Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

                  Originally posted by Griffen#16
                  Jong I think is still a while off being a player at AFL level
                  I thought he was good in the NAB cup
                  If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                  Formerly gogriff

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                  • F'scary
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 4089

                    #10
                    Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

                    Lin "Kamikaze" Jong-Il and Jack "The Widow-Maker" Redpath should both be promoted. They have attracted good nick-names which is a strong indicator of quality as a footballer.
                    Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                    • The Bulldogs Bite
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11115

                      #11
                      Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

                      No to all but Redpath.

                      If he performs well over the next two weeks, we don't have much to lose by throwing him into the deep end.
                      W00F!

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66096

                        #12
                        Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

                        Looks like Goodes has a suspected broken arm and will be out for the season.

                        We are fast losing options for guys to come into the team as replacements.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          #13
                          Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

                          I'd only do it if they are going to get multiple games this year. If any of the rookies aren't in contention for games in a row, it's a pointless exercise.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Happy Days
                            Hall of Fame
                            • May 2008
                            • 10086

                            #14
                            Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

                            Talia mentioned on SEN after his rising star nomination that he thought Redpath would get a chance at sme stage.
                            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              #15
                              Re: Should we upgrade some rookies?

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Looks like Goodes has a suspected broken arm and will be out for the season.

                              We are fast losing options for guys to come into the team as replacements.
                              Bring on the Widow-Maker.
                              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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