Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

[soupman]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

I haven't posted on here for a long time, but I thought it worth while explaining what happened today.

Do not blame the umpire, blame the rule, and that rule is, when a non controlling umpire pays a free kick, then advantage can not be paid.

The mid zone umpire (who was in control of the play) did not pay the free, why he didn't pay it, I don't know. The end zone umpire (who was one of the 2 non controlling umpires at the time) paid the free kick and although he signalled advantage, he was incorrect to do so. The mid zone umpire rightfully stopped the play as the rules clearly state there can not be advantage paid when the free kick is paid by non controlling umpire.

That's bullshit. Absolute crap.

Why did the non-controlling umpire pay the free then if he wasn't the relevant umpire? It wasn't as if the controlling umpire couldn't see Goddard get run down.

Regardless of whether or not the decision was technically correct, it ranks up there as one of the worst umpiring decisions I've ever witnessed. The outcome was the definition of how advantage should play out...it was textbook, and there is no possible rational reason that the fact we were penalised for winning a freekick should be the right outcome.


*I am not upset or questioning your statement Aker39, I am livid with this rule if it does indeed exist as you have posted.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

Played a great game today, taking 5 marks, 19 disposals, 4 inside 50's a goal plus dished off a few resulting in goals.

Note to Macca: How about not having double standards and gifting players games when they are not consistent, eg, Dickson, Addison, Cordy.

If he had decent entries he could have had three or four too. Not bagging Cordy, but Grant knows where to lead to to be most dangerous and also when to work up the ground too.

[SonofScray]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

Why was Heppel allowed to play on around the mark when Smith was clearly injured, immediately in the vicinity and in need of medical attention? Shouldn't play get stopped there?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

I haven't posted on here for a long time, but I thought it worth while explaining what happened today.

Do not blame the umpire, blame the rule, and that rule is, when a non controlling umpire pays a free kick, then advantage can not be paid.

The mid zone umpire (who was in control of the play) did not pay the free, why he didn't pay it, I don't know. The end zone umpire (who was one of the 2 non controlling umpires at the time) paid the free kick and although he signalled advantage, he was incorrect to do so. The mid zone umpire rightfully stopped the play as the rules clearly state there can not be advantage paid when the free kick is paid by non controlling umpire.

Shame we haven't seen more of you lately Aker, i was wondering where youve been.

You're dead right on what actually happened. I think most are annoyed about what should have happened (I.e. the controlling umpire should have paid the free and then the adv).

[Topdog]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

Interesting insight aker. I didnt know the rule was that specific.

[soupman]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

Absolutely devastated with the all too likely severity of Clay Smith's injury.

He has been one of the highlights this season and is the personification of the contested style we are aspiring to. I have been so impressed with his ability both defensively and offensively this season and unfortunately this means the delight of seeing an opponent foolishly try and take him on will be postponed until he is fit again.

Having said that I think he is destined to be an absolute beast of a man, and time off his feet may just see him return a giant.

[jeemak]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

I hope the club put in a complaint about the umpiring today, really did my head in and it all seemed essendons way, if it went in their forward line it seemed like they were given a free kick if they didn't kick a goal, absolutely disgusting, if ever I saw umpires favouring a team it was today.

If I'm not mistaken Rob Murphy had a chat with them as they congregated prior to walking off the ground after the game.

Umpire bashing isn't something I like to indulge in too much, it's a bloody tough job. Sometimes however, I get the impression the umpires like to be on the winning team and sink the boots in to the struggling or less popular clubs.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

Absolutely devastated with the all too likely severity of Clay Smith's injury.

He has been one of the highlights this season and is the personification of the contested style we are aspiring to. I have been so impressed with his ability both defensively and offensively this season and unfortunately this means the delight of seeing an opponent foolishly try and take him on will be postponed until he is fit again.

Having said that I think he is destined to be an absolute beast of a man, and time off his feet may just see him return a giant.

Seconded. Hopefully it isn't as bad as first thought.

[soupman]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

One player who deserves more credit than he is getting is Cooney.

Thought he was very good tonight, and his intent to tackle, especially early was encouraging. Thought he really fought back against the criticisms of his efforts of previous weeks.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

One player who deserves more credit than he is getting is Cooney.

Thought he was very good tonight, and his intent to tackle, especially early was encouraging. Thought he really fought back against the criticisms of his efforts of previous weeks.

Agreed, he was good today looked dangerous and seemed more up than he has since returning from his hamstring.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

One player who deserves more credit than he is getting is Cooney.

Thought he was very good tonight, and his intent to tackle, especially early was encouraging. Thought he really fought back against the criticisms of his efforts of previous weeks.

I hope the blood cooking treatment he received preseason has been booked in again. He may yet improve his speed and endurance.

[always right]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

Many have pointed to Cooney being played off the back flank for his lack of intensity. Right or wrong...perhaps his move back into the midfield resulted in the change in attitude today.

[always right]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

I haven't posted on here for a long time, but I thought it worth while explaining what happened today.

Do not blame the umpire, blame the rule, and that rule is, when a non controlling umpire pays a free kick, then advantage can not be paid.

The mid zone umpire (who was in control of the play) did not pay the free, why he didn't pay it, I don't know. The end zone umpire (who was one of the 2 non controlling umpires at the time) paid the free kick and although he signalled advantage, he was incorrect to do so. The mid zone umpire rightfully stopped the play as the rules clearly state there can not be advantage paid when the free kick is paid by non controlling umpire.

If that is true, it has to be one of the more baffling rules....and we've got a few. I can understand it to some extent when there is a late call from a non-controlling umpire but in this particular case the whistle went as soon as the infringement occurred....I actually thought the controlling umpire paid it.

Why was Heppel allowed to play on around the mark when Smith was clearly injured, immediately in the vicinity and in need of medical attention? Shouldn't play get stopped there?

The only time play is stopped is when a stretcher is brought out or it is obvious there is some danger of the player being further injured. I don't think we can criticize this particular one.

[Lowey33]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

The only reason advantage shouldn't have been paid, was if there wasn't an advantage. It's a ridiculous rule, even if it was correct, by the book! And old mate giesch will say he got it right, no doubt!

[Lowey33]

Re: Game Day - R16 Western Bulldogs V Essendon

If that is true, it has to be one of the more baffling rules....and we've got a few. I can understand it to some extent when there is a late call from a non-controlling umpire but in this particular case the whistle went as soon as the infringement occurred....I actually thought the controlling umpire paid it.



The only time play is stopped is when a stretcher is brought out or it is obvious there is some danger of the player being further injured. I don't think we can criticize this particular one.

Why wasn't someone standing on the goal line? That was my first question, after heppels goal. No one within 15 mts of the goal square!