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  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6471

    #1

    Hargrave's future?

    Will Hargrave fit into a backline of Morris Harris Gilbee Everitt Williams and Callan/McDougall/Griffin/Addison?

    If not, does he have the smarts to play in the HF line?
    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.
  • Sockeye Salmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6365

    #2
    Re: Hargrave's future?

    Most of the time we play with a 7 man backline anyway.

    Hargrave can play tall(ish) or small, kicks well, can attack or defend. Not having to play on guys 2 inches and 10kg's bigger than him will help.

    They'll be a spot for him.

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    • westdog54
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6686

      #3
      Re: Hargrave's future?

      The beauty of having Hargrave/Everitt/Griffen/McDougall in the same team is the versatility aspect, you could move Hargrave/Everitt to the wing, Griffen into the midfield, Doogs into the forward line depending on the match-up (he couldn't be your key forward), Callan and Addison may play tagging roles, long story short, there will be room for everyone somewhere depending on the match-ups

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11962

        #4
        Re: Hargrave's future?

        Originally posted by westdog54
        The beauty of having Hargrave/Everitt/Griffen/McDougall in the same team is the versatility aspect, you could move Hargrave/Everitt to the wing, Griffen into the midfield, Doogs into the forward line depending on the match-up (he couldn't be your key forward), Callan and Addison may play tagging roles, long story short, there will be room for everyone somewhere depending on the match-ups
        Exactly. We can't just have 6-7 backmen that must play in that spot, we need to get the right match-ups and right balance of tall/short and attacking/defensive
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Hargrave's future?

          As far as I am concerned Hargrave replaces McMahon as the attacking and running defender. He is very much in our best 18 players so is under no risk to hold a spot.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #6
            Re: Hargrave's future?

            Originally posted by Dry Rot
            Will Hargrave fit into a backline of Morris Harris Gilbee Everitt Williams and Callan/McDougall/Griffin/Addison?

            If not, does he have the smarts to play in the HF line?
            I think he can play as a forward but he might not be as effective. His strengths are his quickness, long kicking, reading the play and ability to work off his opponent. He might need to be trained how to play as a forward. I know Campbell is the forward coach but I do think we miss not having a genuine key forward in that position to teach the players. If I was Campbell I would be keen to get him as a forward but I guess Dean would want him as well.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #7
              Re: Hargrave's future?

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              Most of the time we play with a 7 man backline anyway.Hargrave can play tall(ish) or small, kicks well, can attack or defend. Not having to play on guys 2 inches and 10kg's bigger than him will help.

              They'll be a spot for him.
              Asking for trouble playing a 7 man backline. Im a big fan of the John Worsfold 'one on one' no matter what style.

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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #8
                Re: Hargrave's future?

                Originally posted by jerry
                Asking for trouble playing a 7 man backline. Im a big fan of the John Worsfold 'one on one' no matter what style.
                Welcome to 1978.

                Even West Coast have 15 blokes in the defensive 50 when they need to.

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                • mjp
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7477

                  #9
                  Re: Hargrave's future?

                  Originally posted by jerry
                  Asking for trouble playing a 7 man backline. Im a big fan of the John Worsfold 'one on one' no matter what style.
                  Go and watch the tape of the 2006 Grand Final.
                  What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #10
                    Re: Hargrave's future?

                    I'd like Shaggy to play further up the field on the wing. He has the build for a wingman as well as some extra height thrown in which would give him an advantage overhead.
                    He could also assist in the forward line or back line when required.
                    He is one of the guys who doesnt mind the rough stuff and I reckon Rocket doesnt mind that, so I cant see him not having a spot.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Hargrave's future?

                      Originally posted by Bulldog Banana
                      I'd like Shaggy to play further up the field on the wing. He has the build for a wingman as well as some extra height thrown in which would give him an advantage overhead.
                      He could also assist in the forward line or back line when required.
                      He is one of the guys who doesnt mind the rough stuff and I reckon Rocket doesnt mind that, so I cant see him not having a spot.
                      It has to be worth considering, He has plenty of pace and is a long kick so the ball will get to the forwards quickly which cannot be a bad thing.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #12
                        Re: Hargrave's future?

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        Welcome to 1978.

                        Even West Coast have 15 blokes in the defensive 50 when they need to.
                        Exactly. You just backed up my point. Worsfold doesnt let players run free. Everyone is man on man. If you start dropping loose players into backlines then the opposition will do it to you. The ball will rebound to easily. It all about pressure!

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #13
                          Re: Hargrave's future?

                          Originally posted by mjp
                          Go and watch the tape of the 2006 Grand Final.
                          My point exactly. Man on man footy

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11962

                            #14
                            Re: Hargrave's future?

                            Originally posted by jerry
                            Asking for trouble playing a 7 man backline. Im a big fan of the John Worsfold 'one on one' no matter what style.
                            Do you believe we have the individuals capable of this?
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: Hargrave's future?

                              Originally posted by hujsh
                              Do you believe we have the individuals capable of this?
                              Of course. Comes down to the coach and the game plan

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