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  • Eastdog
    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
    • Feb 2012
    • 18235

    Jonathan Patton

    Thought ill start a thread for this player as there is a thread on Crameri and Boyd already. Can we secure him realistically.
    "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"
  • F'scary
    WOOF Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 4089

    #2
    Re: Jonathan Patton

    I am going to play devil's advocate:

    Here are the reasons why swapping #4 for Patton should not be pursued.

    1. We have already unearthed an even bigger and quite possibly better power forward in Tom Campbell.

    2. Patton is risky because of the ACL injury.

    3. Patton has not set the world on fire. He has only played 2 AFL games since being drafted #1 in 2011 (same year as Clay Smith who has played 30 games).

    4. Our forward line issues have been solved: We are getting another highly touted forward in Crameri. The combination of Dahlhaus, Campbell, Crameri, Stringer, Grant & Hunter along with Jones, Williams, Higgins, Dickson, Giansiracusa and even Clay Smith & Koby Stevens vying for forward positions as well looks pretty good for 2014 and beyond.

    5. Our biggest problem is quality movement of the ball into the forward line. Pick 4 therefore should be used to get a young midfielder with quality foot disposal, e.g. Scharenberg.
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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14582

      #3
      Re: Jonathan Patton

      Can't see him being traded just yet.
      The curse is dead.

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      • Eastdog
        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
        • Feb 2012
        • 18235

        #4
        Re: Jonathan Patton

        Definitely see what your saying F'scary in that our ball movement from the midfield needs to be better. Would it help though along with Crameri that we have another forward up there.
        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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        • FrediKanoute
          Coaching Staff
          • Aug 2007
          • 3814

          #5
          Re: Jonathan Patton

          Patton though is different. He is a key monster forward in the johnnies brown mould. Midfield silk is important, but you never pass on tall quality forward.

          Yes there are risks, an Acl is not great, but at his age he should be ok.

          Campbell, showed a bit, but he is a ruck man first and will be a lump in the forward line rather than a focal point.

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          • Eastdog
            WOOF Communtiy Organiser
            • Feb 2012
            • 18235

            #6
            Re: Jonathan Patton

            Originally posted by FrediKanoute
            Patton though is different. He is a key monster forward in the johnnies brown mould. Midfield silk is important, but you never pass on tall quality forward.

            Yes there are risks, an Acl is not great, but at his age he should be ok.

            Campbell, showed a bit, but he is a ruck man first and will be a lump in the forward line rather than a focal point.
            So you see Campbell more of as a future replacement in the ruck once Minson departs.
            "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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            • F'scary
              WOOF Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 4089

              #7
              Re: Jonathan Patton

              Originally posted by FrediKanoute
              Patton though is different. He is a key monster forward in the johnnies brown mould. Midfield silk is important, but you never pass on tall quality forward.

              Yes there are risks, an Acl is not great, but at his age he should be ok.

              Campbell, showed a bit, but he is a ruck man first and will be a lump in the forward line rather than a focal point.
              I think Campbell showed more than a bit and could easily become a new generation J Brown. He did not play like a resting ruckman lump in the last part of the 2013 season when he was reintroduced to the seniors. I am predicting that if we don't waste our #4 pick on a swap for Patton, Campbell will consolidate as the key deep forward, be a minor sensation in 2014 and continue to build from there.
              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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              • FrediKanoute
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2007
                • 3814

                #8
                Re: Jonathan Patton

                Yes, he is a pinch hitting forward not someone you build a team around.

                I admit he looked good down there and was effective in the latter part of the season, but can he do this all year and return 50+ goals which is what you would expect from a FF?

                Patton I think is a natural forward, he is someone you build a. Side around.

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                • F'scary
                  WOOF Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 4089

                  #9
                  Re: Jonathan Patton

                  Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                  Yes, he is a pinch hitting forward not someone you build a team around.

                  I admit he looked good down there and was effective in the latter part of the season, but can he do this all year and return 50+ goals which is what you would expect from a FF?

                  Patton I think is a natural forward, he is someone you build a. Side around.
                  Fair enough, I would probably get on board if the trade went ahead, get excited and look forward to seeing him at FF in our colours in 2014.

                  I'll leave it at this: if Patton has so much currency, I would think the Dees or the Saints with higher draft picks to trade will beat us to him anyway. They need him as much as us, if not more.
                  Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9873

                    #10
                    Re: Jonathan Patton

                    Would love him but don't think GWS will trade him at all.

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                    • F'scary
                      WOOF Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 4089

                      #11
                      Re: Jonathan Patton

                      Originally posted by G-Mo77
                      Would love him but don't think GWS will trade him at all.
                      Does this mean they will have Patton, Boyd and Buddy in the same forward line next year? Thanks Dementedriou.
                      Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                      • Eastdog
                        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 18235

                        #12
                        Re: Jonathan Patton

                        Originally posted by F'scary
                        Does this mean they will have Patton, Boyd and Buddy in the same forward line next year? Thanks Dementedriou.
                        Would be annoyed by that. Thats the AFL for you. Could we go for Buddy or is it just not worth it.
                        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9873

                          #13
                          Re: Jonathan Patton

                          Originally posted by F'scary
                          Does this mean they will have Patton, Boyd and Buddy in the same forward line next year? Thanks Dementedriou.
                          And Cameron.

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                          • bulldogsthru&thru
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • May 2011
                            • 7708

                            #14
                            Re: Jonathan Patton

                            Originally posted by G-Mo77
                            Would love him but don't think GWS will trade him at all.
                            I still don't get how GWS are allowing him to get medicals at other clubs yet won't be trading him. Testing his value perhaps?

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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14582

                              #15
                              Re: Jonathan Patton

                              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                              I still don't get how GWS are allowing him to get medicals at other clubs yet won't be trading him. Testing his value perhaps?
                              That's never been confirmed outside of Facebook though has it?
                              The curse is dead.

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