Pre-season Training Thread 2014

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Watching today, was he ignoring things or over thinking or just 'lost'?

Not too sure, perhaps it's questionable whether he's getting enough advice about forward craft/creating separation etc. or perhaps he simply isn't good enough and is more of a natural ruck anyway. I lean towards the latter.

Did you see Griff explaining to Hrovat how to kick with a bent leg?

I missed that, wish he explained it to Tutt because every single one of his kicks were looped and spinning incorrectly, as though he kept getting under them/brushing the side of his boot.

I am no sports scientist by any means, so I am wondering is endurance something that can be taught or developed? or is it you either have it or you don't?

Genetics certainly play an important part, but Jones' work ethic isn't as strong as it should be and this is evident in certain drills. It may mean that in order to improve his fitness, things like cross training will be of more benefit to him than simply just running -- which they already do, but it may apply moreso to somebody like Jones.

[soupman]

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I would of thought they were the two least likely along with Fletcher by the end of last year.
Perhaps he is just pumping their tyres up a little because I don't see them improving that much in a pre-season over so many others.

I have a feeling that he took the question as "who outside of the core 30 from last season do you see stepping up this season", meaning he was picking from a pool of Cordy, Pearce, Roberts, Howard, Tutt etc. instead of Hrovat, Stringer, Campbell etc.

[Mofra]

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I have a feeling that he took the question as "who outside of the core 30 from last season do you see stepping up this season", meaning he was picking from a pool of Cordy, Pearce, Roberts, Howard, Tutt etc. instead of Hrovat, Stringer, Campbell etc.

To be honest I see Tutt a significant step ahead of the rest of the guys grouped there.
I like Roberts but he's behind Talia, Roughy & Young and despite being on the rookie list Austin plays his role too.

[always right]

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I've only seen photos and footage but Pearce stands out to me as someone who dramatically changed his body shape in the off season and looks in outstanding shape. Let's hope it translates to better performances on the field because we can always use more quick running defenders. He reminds me a little of Geary from St Kilda who has limitations but has turned himself into a running machine who can play on a variety of midfield and small forward types.

[LostDoggy]

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Anyone seen Big Min?

[Dazza]

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Re:Bontempeli how is his attack on the ball in the air and on the ground? I see a lot of similarities with Everitt at the moment. Just hoping he has that attack on the ball that Everitt was missing.

[always right]

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Re:Bontempeli how is his attack on the ball in the air and on the ground? I see a lot of similarities with Everitt at the moment. Just hoping he has that attack on the ball that Everitt was missing.

Apart from being tall and lean.....what other similarities do you see?

[ledge]

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Would never have emphasized Everitt playing in the centre, I don't see any likeness at all except the two above and he is a homosapien.

[Dazza]

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Height, bodyshape, kicking skills, early pick, pace, endurance, project player, great potential, bottom ager etc. It was said Everitt could have played as a midfielder when he was drafted as well.

Everitt looked great when he first played, it's only his attack on the ball that lets him down. He looked like a tall wingman before we tried to turn him into a kpp. Eventually he became a jack of all trades master of none.

I'm not writing the kid off, just asking what his attack on the ball is like.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Height, bodyshape, kicking skills, early pick, pace, endurance, project player, great potential, bottom ager etc. It was said Everitt could have played as a midfielder when he was drafted as well.

Everitt looked great when he first played, it's only his attack on the ball that lets him down. He looked like a tall wingman before we tried to turn him into a kpp. Eventually he became a jack of all trades master of none.

I'm not writing the kid off, just asking what his attack on the ball is like.

Those attributes you could label most top picks with and the other attributes are generic enough to be of no relevance in a comparison with Everitt. I dont know what his attack on the ball is like but i would hazard a guess that there is no way Macca would have accepted drafting him if it was poor. So i dont think there should be any concern

[soupman]

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Those attributes you could label most top picks with and the other attributes are generic enough to be of no relevance in a comparison with Everitt. I dont know what his attack on the ball is like but i would hazard a guess that there is no way Macca would have accepted drafting him if it was poor. So i dont think there should be any concern

This is the beauty of Macca. People love to laugh about how everyone needs to be able to crack in and be solid citizens and stuff, but it does mean that we know that all of our recruits are going to be players that are prepared to work their arses off to make it and won't be found out for a lack of physicality or endeavour at the top level.

That means no more Everitts, or Hills, or Bowdens, or McDougall's etc.

[stefoid]

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ha ha, was just discussing McDudegirl with someone yesterday.

[Twodogs]

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ha ha, was just discussing McDudegirl with someone yesterday.

You must have been struggling to find things to talk about.

Closed session today but I snuck in for a peek towards the end of the session. The players were having match practice but the idea was to not turn the ball over.


Macca bought them in to talk about players defending and taking up space when the opposition has the ball. Gee he's loud! I was over the other side of the ground and I could hear him quite clearly. "When the opposition are streaming forward and I look at our defence what should I be able to see Griff?" "Tall defenders running into position" "Yes. Talls running into position, thank you Griff"

If the footy thing doesn't work out for him he could find work scaring people I reckon.

[Ghost Dog]

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To be honest I see Tutt a significant step ahead of the rest of the guys grouped there.
I like Roberts but he's behind Talia, Roughy & Young and despite being on the rookie list Austin plays his role too.

I'm really looking forward to seeing Young play in 2014. Flies under the radar a fair bit. He generally makes great decisions. You feel confident when he has the ball in hand.

[Ghost Dog]

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Height, bodyshape, kicking skills, early pick, pace, endurance, project player, great potential, bottom ager etc. It was said Everitt could have played as a midfielder when he was drafted as well.

Everitt looked great when he first played, it's only his attack on the ball that lets him down. He looked like a tall wingman before we tried to turn him into a kpp. Eventually he became a jack of all trades master of none.

I'm not writing the kid off, just asking what his attack on the ball is like.

Not just that. At times his decision making was criminally speculative. Going for boundary goals and missing them, while a bloke stands in the square screaming for it. In that moment, his papers were stamped, in my mind at least.