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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11265
    #76
    Re: Matthew Fuller

    Worthwhile selection based on list needs but it hasn't panned out. At 23yo we should not be wasting a senior list spot on him in 2015. Happy to delist and rookie but agree with rationale to move quickly on draft errors with mature players.
    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775
        #77
        Re: Matthew Fuller

        Originally posted by Hoopsnake
        Fuller has been on the list for a year, and if the club thought he wasn't worth that he would have been rookied. I'm sure he'll go around again. There are many more on the existing list that have had more than ample opportunity to make an impact and have made none. I'm expecting (and hoping) for a good number of players to be moved on at the end of this year, and Fuller isn't one of them.
        I can't remember a player struggling as badly at VFL level as Fuller has, certainly none who are in their mid 20's. Some games he's only managed 5 or 6 possessions as a rebounding half back in a good team. If he was a player at a stand alone VFL club he'd have been playing reserves and I would expect be delisted at season's end.
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          • Go_Dogs
            Hall of Fame
            • Jan 2007
            • 10162
            #78
            Re: Matthew Fuller

            I'm pretty surprised by how he's gone after being a good performer at Norwood for a few years prior.

            Hard to disagree with the consensus though, that we should strongly consider moving him on at the end of the year.
            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27655
                #79
                Re: Matthew Fuller

                Originally posted by Greystache
                I can't remember a player struggling as badly at VFL level as Fuller has, certainly none who are in their mid 20's. Some games he's only managed 5 or 6 possessions as a rebounding half back in a good team. If he was a player at a stand alone VFL club he'd have been playing reserves and I would expect be delisted at season's end.

                I can't remember him getting a touch early in the season.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • lemmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6527
                    #80
                    Re: Matthew Fuller

                    From the little I have seen I don't mind his work defensively, has the nice athletic qualities with his spring and pace you want in a small back but realistically as others have mentioned it's probably not enough to buy him much time with how little footy he has won. It's just part and parcel with being a mature age recruit, instant impact is expected.

                    Unless something changes drastically we probably part ways at the end of the year. Who knows, he may end as one of the very few Footscray premiership players.

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                      • boydogs
                        WOOF Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 5844
                        #81
                        Re: Matthew Fuller

                        I think we're stretching to think his shoulder issue explains his limited impact. Not holding out much hope for him and comfortable with delisting him
                        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                        Formerly gogriff

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                          • Maddog37
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3132
                            #82
                            Re: Matthew Fuller

                            The day he played at Ballarat earlier in the year he was off and on the ground and looked in terrible pain all day. Seemed the same most weeks. I'm not sure he will be kept on but I don't reckon he has been right all year.

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                              • westdog54
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6686
                                #83
                                Re: Matthew Fuller

                                I wonder if he may end up swapping spots with Austin and going back to the rookie list.

                                I'd be mighty annoyed if we've spent a second rounder only to delist him a year later

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                                  • The Underdog
                                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                                    • Aug 2007
                                    • 6875
                                    #84
                                    Re: Matthew Fuller

                                    Originally posted by westdog54
                                    I wonder if he may end up swapping spots with Austin and going back to the rookie list.

                                    I'd be mighty annoyed if we've spent a second rounder only to delist him a year later
                                    Wasn't he a 3rd (42ish)?Our 2nd went to Essendon. Not much difference, appears to be a miss either way.
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                                    Drop that phone
                                    Sleep on the floor
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                                      • Happy Days
                                        Hall of Fame
                                        • May 2008
                                        • 10145
                                        #85
                                        Re: Matthew Fuller

                                        Agree with the majority here, I liked the idea behind the selection (trying to fill a need and a demographic in one swoop) but it just hasn't worked.

                                        A big part of being a designated kicker out of the back half is the ability to find the ball; it's what makes guys like Suckling, Smith, Hanley and Malceski so important to their sides. He can't separate and free himself up to be used in such a way and hasn't really demonstrated the ability to perform any other role both pre or post drafting (actual defender, forward flanker, whatever), and at 23 you would think that if this was ever going to occur, at least glimpses would have been shown by now.
                                        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                                          • doggies ftw
                                            Draftee
                                            • Dec 2013
                                            • 749
                                            #86
                                            Re: Matthew Fuller

                                            The thing is he was absolutely fantastic in the SANFL, best half back in the league. Its not like he was only playing NEAFL or something, the SANFL is just as good as the VFL so its just strange he has been so poor. What that tells me is he isn't right, it can be pretty tough for a mature ager to just up his life and move states, maybe even harder than a young kid. He has had shoulder issues all year too and they've obviously hurt him a bit, also like Darley he has probably been asked to work on his defensive craft first.

                                            He will be on the list next year and I hope like hell he shows us a bit more of why we drafted him.

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                                              • Greystache
                                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                                • Dec 2009
                                                • 9775
                                                #87
                                                Re: Matthew Fuller

                                                Originally posted by doggies ftw
                                                The thing is he was absolutely fantastic in the SANFL, best half back in the league. Its not like he was only playing NEAFL or something, the SANFL is just as good as the VFL so its just strange he has been so poor. What that tells me is he isn't right, it can be pretty tough for a mature ager to just up his life and move states, maybe even harder than a young kid. He has had shoulder issues all year too and they've obviously hurt him a bit, also like Darley he has probably been asked to work on his defensive craft first.

                                                He will be on the list next year and I hope like hell he shows us a bit more of why we drafted him.
                                                The general consensus from players has been it's a big step up from SANFL or WAFL to VFL. Not as big obviously as VFL to AFL, but a step up none the less.
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                                                  • F'scary
                                                    WOOF Member
                                                    • Dec 2011
                                                    • 4089
                                                    #88
                                                    Re: Matthew Fuller

                                                    Fuller should join Howard, Pearce, Cordy and Goodes on the correct list. Not the A List. Not the B or C List. We are talking D List.
                                                    Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                                                      • Throughandthrough
                                                        Coaching Staff
                                                        • Nov 2007
                                                        • 3201
                                                        #89
                                                        Re: Matthew Fuller

                                                        Originally posted by Greystache
                                                        The general consensus from players has been it's a big step up from SANFL or WAFL to VFL. Not as big obviously as VFL to AFL, but a step up none the less.

                                                        I'd argue that VFL and SANFL are very similar levels. Can't really comment on WAFL but no reason why that would be much different either. #oldarguement.

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                                                          • Greystache
                                                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                                                            • Dec 2009
                                                            • 9775
                                                            #90
                                                            Re: Matthew Fuller

                                                            Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                                                            I'd argue that VFL and SANFL are very similar levels. Can't really comment on WAFL but no reason why that would be much different either. #oldarguement.
                                                            Just going by what the players say. They find the step up to VFL is noticeable.
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