Should we have Drafted another Young Ruckman

[G-Mo77]

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I know he's a favourite of some, but Redpath is someone who can be considered luckier IMO.

Very lucky, I'm genuinely shocked that he stayed on the list.

[Go_Dogs]

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Very lucky, I'm genuinely shocked that he stayed on the list.

I tend to agree but the limited amounts I saw of him last year down back at VFL level he did show a bit and I think his physical package and obviously, what he does on the track and behind closed doors was enough to see him extended for another year.

The upshot is we obviously have a lot of faith in our ability to develop these guys and bridge the gap to make them into AFL players.

For mine, Greenwood would've been the one to make way for a ruck but I think we can survive the year with what we have.

Next year there looks like there'll be lots of taller players in the KP and ruck mould so I think we can assume our early selections next year will be based on grabbing some developing players for those roles.

[Bornadog]

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Cameron Wood rookied today with Carlton.

[Sedat]

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Cameron Wood rookied today with Carlton.

Shame they didn't get a ruckman :boomtish:

[Happy Days]

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Shame they didn't get a ruckman :boomtish:

It's good that they already have 4 ruckmen better thn him but they still all suck.

[chef]

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Shame they didn't get a ruckman :boomtish:

Seems they have replaced Hampson perfectly.

[Mantis]

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Yep. Not to bash they guy but how did Greenwood stay on? This seems like a need area for mine and this was an easy opportunity to provide some security.

I don't think he was at all helped by Willi's decision to only play a limited amount of WB listed players each week... Played well late in the season and will get every opportunity this year given we now have our own reserves team.

[G-Mo77]

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I don't think he was at all helped by Willi's decision to only play a limited amount of WB listed players each week... Played well late in the season and will get every opportunity this year given we now have our own reserves team.

Maybe that is one of the reasons all were retained. Last year didn't help development one bit.

[Greystache]

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I don't think he was at all helped by Willi's decision to only play a limited amount of WB listed players each week... Played well late in the season and will get every opportunity this year given we now have our own reserves team.

Agree. It seems a lot of people have written Greenwood off, and granted this season wasn't great for him for a number of reason, but his form late in 2012 (particularly his finals series) was outstanding.

He's small and needs physical development, but he showed great ability to win the ball, composure under heavy pressure, and very clean skills on both sides of his body.

I'm still very optimistic about him as a prospect. I might be in the minority but I'm glad we kept him on for another season. Granted he needs to have a good year in 2014 to keep his place going forward.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Agree. It seems a lot of people have written Greenwood off, and granted this season wasn't great for him for a number of reason, but his form late in 2012 (particularly his finals series) was outstanding.

He's small and needs physical development, but he showed great ability to win the ball, composure under heavy pressure, and very clean skills on both sides of his body.

I'm still very optimistic about him as a prospect. I might be in the minority but I'm glad we kept him on for another season. Granted he needs to have a good year in 2014 to keep his place going forward.

Even if he does have a good season, I just don't see how we can fit him onto the senior list let alone in the best 22 with the abundance of inside mids in front of him, and even more so now after we've drafted Honeychurch. In theory it's a good problem to have, but on this occasion, I don't think it helps either club or player.

[bulldogtragic]

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Even if he does have a good season, I just don't see how we can fit him onto the senior list let alone in the best 22 with the abundance of inside mids in front of him, and even more so now after we've drafted Honeychurch. In theory it's a good problem to have, but on this occasion, I don't think it helps either club or player.

Couldn't agree more on this one, I just don't see the clear logic here.

[Greystache]

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Even if he does have a good season, I just don't see how we can fit him onto the senior list let alone in the best 22 with the abundance of inside mids in front of him, and even more so now after we've drafted Honeychurch. In theory it's a good problem to have, but on this occasion, I don't think it helps either club or player.

You might well be right, but as a 25 year for example, I'm not sure he'd be purely an inside mid. He needs to build power, and hopefully in turn some for speed, but I think he could play a mix of inside and out. He has neat skills and good composure, so doesn't have to be purely at the coal face. He may well turn out to be surplus to needs, but I'd prefer to build a list of good players rather than keep players like Tutt, Howard, Cordy, and Redpath just because they fill a gap. I just think bad depth is still bad.

[stefoid]

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Yep, Greenwood for a 22-25yo VFL/state based ruckman would give us better balance on the overall list. Howard lucky to get another year, but I guess there was no way of confirming that Fuller was going to get to the Dogs on draft day, so I can understand the retention of Howard for another 12 months - in hindsight Howard really is now surplus to requirements in that running half-back area.

All of a sudden we have a bunch of them

Goodes probably has another two season in him
Darley
JJ
Fuller
I could see Prudden getting a gig there with his foot skills

[Ghost Dog]

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So, as it stands, most on here regret keeping Howard for another year?
Will need a stellar year to be in our best 22 now.
I wonder if Wood from the VFL was ever seriously considered? He had some very good games in the VFL.

[boydogs]

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So, as it stands, most on here regret keeping Howard for another year?

Hopefully he is the Jarrad Grant of 2014.