Peter Gordon Does it Again

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Loving the BB quote from Gordon....'In 2014 the Bulldogs aren't in danger...we are the danger'.

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Loving the BB quote from Gordon....'In 2014 the Bulldogs aren't in danger...we are the danger'.

We've come a long way in 12 months based on this assessment. Good!

[Bornadog]

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Bulldogs captain Ryan Griffin and coach Brendan McCartney at the club’s family day. Picture: Getty Images Source: Getty Images


WESTERN Bulldogs president Peter Gordon has stolen a line from cult television show Breaking Bad to warn his club will be a danger this season.
Talking up the Bulldogs’ prospects at the club’s family day at Whitten Oval yesterday, Gordon said the days of the club being endangered were over.
While coach Brendan McCartney was more tempered in his expectations for the year, citing the need for improvement across several areas, Gordon quoted Breaking Bad’s Walter White to predict a big year.
“The days of the Dogs being an endangered species in the AFL are over,’’ Gordon told supporters.
“If you are fans of the show Breaking Bad, then apologies to you for stealing this line, but in 2014 the Bulldogs are not in danger, we are the danger.
GRIFFEN’S NAB CHALLENGE DOUBT
“We are very excited about this year. It’s going to be a very big year for the Western Bulldogs.
“We are really thrilled to welcome back to the Whitten Oval competitive footy in season 2014.’’
In McCartney’s second season as coach last year, the Bulldogs finished 15th with eight wins.
McCartney admitted the club had been embarrassed in some areas by the “good teams’’.
“We know we do have some areas in our game that we need to keep working at and get better,’’ he said.
“We have tried to build on things that we got better at last year.
COONEY ‘THOUGHT HE WAS DONE’
“But there were a couple of things, even when we won games at the end of the year, that we weren’t really up to speed with the good teams and the good teams embarrassed us in a few areas.
“So we have just tried to put a few more building blocks in place with a primarily young group of players and are looking forward to showing some improvement in those areas.’’

Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon is upbeat about his club’s future. Picture: Getty Images

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/bulldogs-president-peter-gordon-says-its-time-to-get-excited/story-fni5fazt-1226821930275

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Has Peter gone too far with these words? Has he put the pressure on like Smorgo did to Rocket?

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Seems extremes are used in setting out the year. Anything was better than last years 'pep talk' in which players felt deflated according to Bob. I know which one I would rather.

[GVGjr]

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Has Peter gone too far with these words? Has he put the pressure on like Smorgo did to Rocket?

Great question.

I initially gave that some thought but I don't think he has. There is some big differences with the lists, the ladder positions and the spend on the football departments that all factor in.
Rocket's team had the signs of a veteran list that was in need of a change after a close but no cigar campaign over a few seasons whereas Macca's still has that youthful look about it and one that will no doubt excite but also disappoint us along the way.
One list was managing the departing veterans and the Akermanis distractions and the other is managing the expectations of and emerging list. We all deep down know that we are in for a bumpy ride in 2014.

If anything Peter has put pressure on himself to keep increasing the spend on the football department.

Smorgo did Rocket no favours but in my opinion, Gordon was just "working the room".

[Ghost Dog]

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The not being endangered bit is the most important. It's hard to run a club with the sword of damocles hanging over your head all the time. At last we have the financial backing we always dreamed of. This is a special time to be a Dogs supporter - not to be taken for granted.

[1eyedog]

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Great question.

I initially gave that some thought but I don't think he has. There is some big differences with the lists, the ladder positions and the spend on the football departments that all factor in.
Rocket's team had the signs of a veteran list that was in need of a change after a close but no cigar campaign over a few seasons whereas Macca's still has that youthful look about it and one that will no doubt excite but also disappoint us along the way.
One list was managing the departing veterans and the Akermanis distractions and the other is managing the expectations of and emerging list. We all deep down know that we are in for a bumpy ride in 2014.

If anything Peter has put pressure on himself to keep increasing the spend on the football department.

Smorgo did Rocket no favours but in my opinion, Gordon was just "working the room".

Agreed. It appears to be the Presidents role to communicate with the masses and Peter recognises a need to sell the product - which is now quite attractive to prospective Bulldogs members. Peter is a very astute man as we all know and he understands that we are improving and that there is far less risk to make those types of comments than there were a few years ago when Smorgo chimed in.

[Bornadog]

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At last we have the financial backing we always dreamed of. .

Do we?

Debt still $5million

Lowest spend on Football Dept

Members struggling to get to 30,000 - rivals have 50 to 100% more than us.

Haven't won a GF in 60 years and haven't been in a GF for 53 years.

I agree we are in the best position ever in our 120 year history, BUT, I don't think we are safe until the above is rectified and money and members are pouring in.

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Do we?

Debt still $5million

Lowest spend on Football Dept

Members struggling to get to 30,000 - rivals have 50 to 100% more than us.

Haven't won a GF in 60 years and haven't been in a GF for 53 years.

I agree we are in the best position ever in our 120 year history, BUT, I don't think we are safe until the above is rectified and money and members are pouring in.

Does that debt include the lazy million Peter chipped in?

I completely agree with your assessment. It sometimes feels and may be perceived as negativity, but we are in a hole still, especially our membership problems. I'm excited as anyone, but when you need a million dollars off your president, it says we have a long way to go. Hopefully this group of players under BMac can get bums on seats and members wanting to join and stay. I hope we can.

[Throughandthrough]

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I think it's an attempt to build up the brand and sell more memberships. (Which is a positive, by the way)

All aboard!

[Ghost Dog]

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Not sure that's correct BAD.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-18/on-the-campaign-trail

ADELAIDE
SLOGAN: We're ready to fly…so get on board
2013 TALLY: 46,054
CURRENT TALLY: 40,024

BRISBANE LIONS
SLOGAN: Believe. Belong.
2013 TALLY: 24,130
CURRENT TALLY: 12,296

CARLTON
SLOGAN: We are the Navy Blues
2013 TALLY: 50,564
CURRENT TALLY: 27,397

COLLINGWOOD
SLOGAN: Side by side
2013 TALLY: 78,427
CURRENT TALLY: 60,000 plus

ESSENDON
SLOGAN: Essendon will launch a new membership slogan in the new year.
2013 TALLY: 56,173
CURRENT TALLY: 35,309

FREMANTLE
SLOGAN: Own the moment
2013 TALLY: 44,035
CURRENT TALLY: 41,840

GEELONG
SLOGAN: #belonggeelong. Be part of the greatest team of all
2013 TALLY: 40,205
CURRENT TALLY: 16,950


GOLD COAST
SLOGAN: Fire Up
2013 TALLY: 12,502
CURRENT TALLY: 7,762

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
SLOGAN: Stand Tall
2013 TALLY: 12,681
CURRENT TALLY: 5,005

HAWTHORN
SLOGAN: Always Hawthorn
2013 TALLY: 63,353
CURRENT TALLY: 48,135

MELBOURNE
SLOGAN: My heart beats true
2013 TALLY: 33,177
CURRENT TALLY: 22,105


NORTH MELBOURNE
SLOGAN: We will rise together
2013 TALLY: 34,607
CURRENT TALLY: 22,254

PORT ADELAIDE
SLOGAN: We are Port Adelaide
2013 TALLY: 40,162
CURRENT TALLY: 33,252

RICHMOND
SLOGAN: Strong & bold - bring the roar home
2013 TALLY: 60,321
CURRENT TALLY: 41,384

ST KILDA
SLOGAN: More than a football club
2013 TALLY: 32,707
CURRENT TALLY: 17,452 (at 12/12/13)

SYDNEY SWANS
SLOGAN: Proudly Sydney
2013 TALLY: 36,358
CURRENT TALLY: 18,750

WEST COAST
SLOGAN: Our strength is YOU
2013 TALLY: 58,501
CURRENT TALLY: 40,000

WESTERN BULLDOGS
SLOGAN: Gather the pack
2013 TALLY: 30,209
CURRENT TALLY: 17,661

Considering the facts you mentioned makes it all the more surprising we were able to get over 30,000 members in 2013. We are lowest ( GWS and GC don't really count ) but not by that much ( North, St Kilda, Melbourne, Brisbane )
We have a president, who apart from being a fantastic bloke, has handed us a cool million dollars, and is bringing in excellent people into the club. While I agree we are coming from a long way back, at least things seem relatively stable, enabling us to build on it. Equalisation is just a matter of time. Things are looking up. Just have faith in the good people we have. What I mean is, 5 of those clubs are very catch-able in terms of memberships. Two years of exciting TV worthy footy and would we be that far behind?

Critical point is can we play the type of footy people want to watch? It's entertainment.

[Bornadog]

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Not sure that's correct BAD. .

I did say 50 to 100%, so 45,000 plus. Many clubs in Melbourne over this amount. We have to be over 40,000 regularly. Even crappy old North Melbourne have more than us.

We have been stuck around the 30k for a long time, yet Melbourne's population has grown by 27% in the 2000, with many more than that in the West.

We have to get into a GF, and then win one, its the only way.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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Do we?

Debt still $5million

Lowest spend on Football Dept

Members struggling to get to 30,000 - rivals have 50 to 100% more than us.

Haven't won a GF in 60 years and haven't been in a GF for 53 years.

I agree we are in the best position ever in our 120 year history, BUT, I don't think we are safe until the above is rectified and money and members are pouring in.

According to Peter Gordon the debt is more like $10 mill. which is a huge hurdle to overcome. This leaves us effectively 3-4 million behind the richer clubs in the football department spend.Our strong finish in 2013 and better recruiting in the past years should make us a more competitive unit in 2014.

[Ghost Dog]

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At least 4 of the established clubs are within 3000 members. Then, when you factor in how little success we have had, the thrashings and our demographic, it's not too bad, where we are at.