What should the cheer squad do differently

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  • alwaysadog
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2006
    • 1436

    #16
    Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

    I like it when it's a special occasion, when there is a presentation, but not every week. It loses it's impact and it's got so far from its origins.

    It has a ritual element to it now, it's done because it once had a meaning and a context but we keep doing it although we aren't sure why. I think it's more to do with cheer squad rivalry than anything much else.

    When I was first watching the game the cheer squad or its equivalent would place a crepe barrier in the club's colours across the exit of the Player's race, so that they burst through it to emerge on the ground. It was only done for big games. There was a great sense of theatre and anticipation created.

    Seeing the guys run through something when you already have seen them enter the arena is a bit pointless. Whats more they get bigger every year and being inside at the phone dome doesn't even have the wind to discipline outrageousness.
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    • Hard Ball Get

      #17
      Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

      Originally posted by The Coon Dog
      Obviously our game is VERY different to soccer. I've been to many of the Melbourne Victory games & the atmosphere generated is unbelievable. Part of this could be that Australian Rules is so much quicker & perhaps doesn't need the crowd to generate the atmosphere to the same degree.

      Perhaps some simple little songs about our players, tho they need to be clever, short & catchy, for example if Brad Johnson kicked a goal the cheer squad could sing:

      Brad,
      Braddy Johnson,
      Ooooh, aaaaah,
      I wanna know,
      How did you score that goal?

      (The above is from a song my 8 y.o. son goes around singing all the time, not too sure who sings it, but it's very catchy).

      Or as the Barmy Army sing for Freddie Flintoff:

      Soooo-per
      Super Brad
      Super Braddy Johnson!

      Be good if they had a dozen or so little songs that could be put up on a website where fans could listen to them & learn them.

      Just a thought.
      I like this idea.
      I think something like the Premier League how the fans have songs that they sing about players would be really good.
      Just a shhort gingle, it would catch on pretty quickly I think.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66851

        #18
        Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

        Originally posted by Hard Ball Get
        I like this idea.
        I think something like the Premier League how the fans have songs that they sing about players would be really good.
        Just a shhort gingle, it would catch on pretty quickly I think.
        How does one get this going? Should some one contact the cheer squad and suggest it?
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        • The Coon Dog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7579

          #19
          Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

          Ideally, there should be something on the club website inviting supporters to send in songs/ditties & then the cheer squad could pick the best ones out, put them up on the website for everyone or print them & hand them out like they do at Melbourne Victory games.
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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14983

            #20
            Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

            What about utilising the screen during home games? The words of any song (sung to a tune everyone knows) could be displayed on the screen a few times a quarter to start a chant.

            Bulldog Army sounds pretty close to Barmy Army if chanted, so there's an easy one to start.

            We could also start a "Tha Ak-A" chant to drown out that bruddy annoying "Snakata" ad they play 50 times a game at TD.
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            • mjp
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7382

              #21
              Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

              Originally posted by Billy Blogger
              To me it is just a waste. I think I would prefer the National Anthem to be played than having to watch the Cheer Squad struggle to get the banner up. While we are at it, I'm not a fan of having the players bring their children onto the ground for milestone games either.

              Perhaps I'm just having a bad day.

              Nope. You are right on the money. Theme songs as the run out. Line-up for the anthem. Bounce ball.

              Kids? Well, I get why they do it, but it has gotten to the stage where it is obligatory now. I pity the next childless player who reaches the 300game milestone...whatever will he do?

              As for the whole cheering thing, well, my 8year old loves it - spends more time watching Phil in his sequined jacket/hat combo so she knows when to chant 'Bulldogs, BULL-dogs...' than the actual footy. I just want to watch the game to be truthful.
              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

                Tradition. Very important. Lets not tear down colourful aspects of our unique game and reduce it to the sterile or replace it with soccer or cricket. We want to be different. Let's ask the cheer squad if it's a problem, and if it is, work around it, not just get rid of it.

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                • alwaysadog
                  Senior Player
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1436

                  #23
                  Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

                  Some great ideas already. It's an interesting exercise keep the ideas flowing
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                  • The Coon Dog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7579

                    #24
                    Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

                    Now that we've put some good ideas forward how do we introduce those ideas to the mafia that controls (with an iron fist) the Cheer Squad?
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #25
                      Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

                      Good luck with that TCD. Part of the reason why I think Cheers Squads are an outdated feature of the game is the people I have met within this group.
                      They are basically an unwelcoming bunch who either dictate they way the group is run for their own advantage or simply tolerate the behavior by those chosen few.

                      I admire strong leadership and at times you have to get on with things but this group is not as productive as it should be and does little to encourage new folk.

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                      • Missing-Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3102

                        #26
                        Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

                        Originally posted by Billy Blogger
                        Good luck with that TCD. Part of the reason why I think Cheers Squads are an outdated feature of the game is the people I have met within this group.
                        They are basically an unwelcoming bunch who either dictate they way the group is run for their own advantage or simply tolerate the behavior by those chosen few.

                        I admire strong leadership and at times you have to get on with things but this group is not as productive as it should be and does little to encourage new folk.
                        So THIS is what the cheer squad should do differently. Every time I ask about the cheer squad i get a few mumbles about "politics" and "personalities" - it has clearly been placed in the too hard basket. It sounds to me like it needs an injection of new something but there is resistance and reaction.

                        So what do we do about it?

                        I have always been a sh1t stirrer - it is a great australian tradition - and I am not hearing anyone say "Geez they do a great job and blah blah" - I am hearing people either say "it sucks" or the like the idea of the cheer squad (just not our one).

                        I do think it needs lots of teens/twenties young persons to join, however they wont if the atmosphere is unwelcoming.

                        It sounds like the cheer squad needs a rocket (no pun intended) or some friendly competition.

                        Any suggestions?

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                        • bresker

                          #27
                          Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

                          Yes, get a rival squad of cheerers and get them to sit in a certain part of the ground. Hand out flyers advertising where you are sitting outside the ground. Tell people to get there early to get a seat. You'll have to do this on level 3. If we could a part of the upper deck filled with Bulldog fans before the match starts it would discourage opposition fans from sitting there.

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                          • Hard Ball Get

                            #28
                            Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            How does one get this going? Should some one contact the cheer squad and suggest it?
                            No idea to be honest.
                            I guess that would be the best way. They could type up the words and pass them round the squad. Once they are learnt they could sing it and it wouldnt take long for the other fans to catch on.

                            Or the words could be posted somewhere on the dogs website or something like that. I wouldnt know how to organise it though.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #29
                              Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

                              Originally posted by bresker
                              Yes, get a rival squad of cheerers and get them to sit in a certain part of the ground. Hand out flyers advertising where you are sitting outside the ground. Tell people to get there early to get a seat. You'll have to do this on level 3. If we could a part of the upper deck filled with Bulldog fans before the match starts it would discourage opposition fans from sitting there.
                              Thats not a bad idea. My guess is though if the current cheer squad wasn't allowed into the ground they would just be standard members.
                              I think what you are suggesting is more of a supporters club.

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                              • westdog54
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6686

                                #30
                                Re: What should the cheer squad do differently

                                Is anyone here (or does anyone know of) a former member of the "Barkly Street Boys" that used to watch from the Heatley Terrace at Optus Oval? They were ok.

                                Some of the stuff they came up with wasn't exactly G rated, but I'm sure they'd be able to tone things down a little.

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