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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27681

    #1

    Training 28/1/08

    Got there just as match practice started.

    Players missing/I didnt see

    Andrejs Everitt
    Nathan Eagleton
    Wayde Skipper
    Daniel Cross



    Injured/working on sidelines

    Tom Williams
    Jarryd Boumann
    Josh Hill



    The match practice I saw was fairly slick with emphasis on moving the ball quickly on the skinny side of the ground. Skills were fairly good-

    Cooney looks in particularly good form, most of his pick ups were one touch and he seemed to feed off Hudson pretty well.

    Hudson made a few mistakes in his judgement of where to dispose of the ball

    Welsh played across half back-takes a good mark is a beautiful kick of the ball

    Acker looks more like Brisbane Acker-more defined and quicker over the ground

    Hargrave played on a wing and looked good there

    Johnno had shots from all over the place but actually centred the ball from a difficult angle

    Mitch Hahn looked quicker than last preseason and really hit the ball with a lot of confidence

    Bobby Murphy was just Bobby Murphy-making opponents look silly with his judgement and overhead marking ability

    Cam Wight held a couple of good marks at CHB and otherwise spoiled really well

    Street looks huge but actually picked the ball up of the ground and went for a run.

    Ryan Griffen was fairly quiet

    Guido came on late but had no knee padding or anything-didnt notice him otherwise.

    Shaun Higgins really likes to make sure his teammates hears his voice when he wants the ball.

    Farren Ray has gotten bigger again over the preseason-he looked comfortable on a half back flank and delivered the ball well. Hopefully he has found a spot-might be Jordy's instant replacement in defence.

    Noticed Mc Dougall when he fell over in front of us at one stage.

    Jarrad Grant will never die wondering-wants the ball everytime it came into the forward line and worked hard to make good position-I liked what I saw of the kid-big, clever, good skills and not afraid to present himself.

    Jarryd Boumann-If the kid cant play footy he can certainly fight. Huge unit who will keep getting bigger. He was working with the boxing coach and throwing really quick combos that thudded around the ground. Could well be Australias first heavyweight boxing champ if the footy thing doesnt work out.

    Brian Lake(Harris). Played some of the match practice and then sauntered of the ground, did some stretches and disappeared-didnt look injured though.


    It's the first session I've been to this year. My impression was that skills were more prominent than last preseason and the players look bigger, some much bigger. There's lots more players in the sessions, last year for instance Cooney hadnt done anything but walk laps of the ground the whole year, so we shouldnt peter out halfway through the year like last year. I think we'll go back to the really slick gamestyle we went with in 2006.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7579

    #2
    Re: Training 28/1/08

    Magnificent report Twodogs.

    Harbrow? You were purring over him 12 months ago. Who are you purring over from the new recruits?
    [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: Training 28/1/08

      Great report mate.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Training 28/1/08

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        It's the first session I've been to this year. My impression was that skills were more prominent than last preseason and the players look bigger, some much bigger. There's lots more players in the sessions, last year for instance Cooney hadnt done anything but walk laps of the ground the whole year, so we shouldnt peter out halfway through the year like last year. I think we'll go back to the really slick gamestyle we went with in 2006.



        I doubt that. Cant afford to go back to that game style. We know it doesnt work

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11960

          #5
          Re: Training 28/1/08

          Do you remember which players Murph made look silly?

          Did Minson do much?
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • Missing Dog
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8501

            #6
            Re: Training 28/1/08

            Cross did play.

            I thought it was Lynch on the sidelines, not Hill.

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              #7
              Re: Training 28/1/08

              Great reports guys. Tim Callan?

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15547

                #8
                Re: Training 28/1/08

                Originally posted by jerry
                [/B]

                I doubt that. Cant afford to go back to that game style. We know it doesnt work
                Do we?

                If you think it doesn't then you know very little. What game style did Geelong employ last year?

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: Training 28/1/08

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Do we?

                  If you think it doesn't then you know very little. What game style did Geelong employ last year?
                  Geelong 07
                  *Hard nosed, hard working, accountable midfield (with flair when required)
                  *GREAT defence
                  *Tall marking forwards (Ottens and Mooney ) with smart smalls at their feet (Chapman and Johnson)
                  *one on one contested footy.
                  Attacking footy yes, not the same as the Dogs in 06? (almost the opposite in a way)

                  You concur Mantis?

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27681

                    #10
                    Re: Training 28/1/08

                    Originally posted by jerry
                    [/B]


                    I doubt that. Cant afford to go back to that game style. We know it doesnt work


                    With the addition of a decent ruckman and the increased size of the playing group it will.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10251

                      #11
                      Re: Training 28/1/08

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      With the addition of a decent ruckman and the increased size of the playing group it will.
                      Agreed, I have confidence in our methods and I'd like to see us really pump it up this year, as I think we now have a better, more matured side for the game style.
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15547

                        #12
                        Re: Training 28/1/08

                        Originally posted by jerry
                        Geelong 07
                        *Hard nosed, hard working, accountable midfield (with flair when required)
                        *GREAT defence
                        *Tall marking forwards (Ottens and Mooney ) with smart smalls at their feet (Chapman and Johnson)
                        *one on one contested footy.
                        Attacking footy yes, not the same as the Dogs in 06? (almost the opposite in a way)

                        You concur Mantis?

                        The Geelong of 06 and 07 teams were very similiar in personnel, but there was a huge change in there playing style.

                        As you have identified they are pretty even across the board, but played with much more flair and risk in 07 which paid huge dividends.

                        The 3 key players in there success last year I believe were G. Ablett, Egan and Mackie. Ablett gave them someone in the middle with some pace and flair that they badly required. Corey, Bartel and Ling improved, but played the same style that they had over previous years. Ablett gave them a player with the X factor. Egan played the crucial 'defensive tall' role which freed up Scarlett and Harley. And Mackie played the 'Gilbee' role. Ie offensive defender with good foot skills.

                        The style we played successfully at the end of 05 and the first half of 06 can be successful for us, but for a number of reasons it hasn't worked all that well over the past 18mths, abit for a few occassions.

                        As others have mentioned we need a competitive ruckman (hopefully Hudson), a more accountable midfield/ forwardline, a fit Murphy who is extremely important and a tall competitive forward, not a gun just a very solid competitor (hopefully Minson).

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #13
                          Re: Training 28/1/08

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          The Geelong of 06 and 07 teams were very similiar in personnel, but there was a huge change in there playing style.

                          As you have identified they are pretty even across the board, but played with much more flair and risk in 07 which paid huge dividends.

                          The 3 key players in there success last year I believe were G. Ablett, Egan and Mackie. Ablett gave them someone in the middle with some pace and flair that they badly required. Corey, Bartel and Ling improved, but played the same style that they had over previous years. Ablett gave them a player with the X factor. Egan played the crucial 'defensive tall' role which freed up Scarlett and Harley. And Mackie played the 'Gilbee' role. Ie offensive defender with good foot skills.

                          The style we played successfully at the end of 05 and the first half of 06 can be successful for us, but for a number of reasons it hasn't worked all that well over the past 18mths, abit for a few occassions.

                          As others have mentioned we need a competitive ruckman (hopefully Hudson), a more accountable midfield/ forwardline, a fit Murphy who is extremely important and a tall competitive forward, not a gun just a very solid competitor (hopefully Minson).
                          Geelongs game plan in 07, was nothing like Bulldogs 06. I cant agree with you on that. I dont think the 'run and stun' (dogs 06) game plan will ever win a premiership. It hasnt in the last 100 yrs or so, why now? Sure you can tinker with that style, but then that isnt going back to the "really slick gamestyle" Twodogs mentioned.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #14
                            Re: Training 28/1/08

                            Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                            jerry, if you were Rodney Eade, what gameplan would you adopt?
                            Contested, one on one, accountable, long kicking, attacking, hard etc etc ...

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11960

                              #15
                              Re: Training 28/1/08

                              Originally posted by jerry
                              Geelongs game plan in 07, was nothing like Bulldogs 06. I cant agree with you on that. I dont think the 'run and stun' (dogs 06) game plan will ever win a premiership. It hasnt in the last 100 yrs or so, why now? Sure you can tinker with that style, but then that isnt going back to the "really slick gamestyle" Twodogs mentioned.
                              Because football has changed allot in the last 100 years. i can't see players being professional enough in the 70's to be as fit as our guys and they didn't use the bench like we do now
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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