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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    #31
    Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

    Originally posted by Remi Moses
    I actually agree with this, and thought he was better in 91.
    Disposal stats back that up, although he had less tackles and gave away more frees in 1991.

    On frees, from 1992 until the end of his career, Libba had more frees given to him, then paid against him. Not sure Mike Sheehan knows that for all Libba's baggage, he got more frees than he gave.
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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27654

      #32
      Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

      Originally posted by Go_Dogs
      Ok, so it's still early days for all of these players, but I think there might be some tight competition in coming years as to which crop is our best. As it stands, based on players still on our list, we have the following.

      2010:
      Mitch Wallis
      Tom Liberatore
      Luke Dahlhaus (rookie draft)
      Jason Johannisen (rookie draft)

      2011:
      Clay Smith
      Michael Talia
      Daniel Pearce
      Tory Dickson
      Fletcher Roberts (pre-season draft)
      Lin Jong (rookie draft)
      Tom Campbell (rookie draft)
      Alex Greenwood (rookie draft)
      Jack Redpath (rookie draft)
      Mark Austin (rookie draft)

      2012:

      Jack Macrae
      Jake Stringer
      Nathan Hrovat
      Lachie Hunter
      Josh Prudden
      Brett Goodes (rookie draft)


      Based on what we have seen, the high end quality of 2010 and 2012 seems very strong, but I'm equally as excited by 2011 - Clay Smith can become a solid senior performer, whilst we appear to have done well in the key position stakes with Talia and Campbell who should both become long term players in important posts.

      Crystal balling, which draft do you think will end up our best or most important to our future?
      I count 20 players selects selected, 14 still with us (9 are, ah. Premiership players) and 2 on other lists. That's 16 still on AFeL lists. Not bad.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14870

        #33
        Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

        Macrae, Stringer and Hunter is an excellent haul (throw in Wines and that's arguably the 4 best players in the draft) but I still like 2010 as so many other teams fluffed it so we gain a competitive advantage.
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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13189

          #34
          Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

          Yep 2010:
          Mitch Wallis
          Tom Liberatore
          Luke Dahlhaus (rookie draft)
          Jason Johannisen (rookie draft)

          Two fell into our lap but the other two were inspired selections.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27654

            #35
            Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

            Originally posted by 1eyedog
            Yep 2010:
            Mitch Wallis
            Tom Liberatore
            Luke Dahlhaus (rookie draft)
            Jason Johannisen (rookie draft)

            Two fell into our lap but the other two were inspired selections.
            Dalrymple had to fight to be able to take two unknowns with our rookie selections. From memory the coaching staff were pressuring him to take a recycled hack that would have probably played games a few games the next season and then be gone type.

            I don't know how hard to really argue his case for Dal and JJ but thank god he did. Dalhaus pretty much did walk into the side the next season and started playing at a level above your standard AFeL hack would have played. He kicking a few goals and did this thing called tackling that none of our other forwards had seen another forward do before. In fact I think the only game he missed was because we didn't have a player on the LTI list for him to cover.

            Dalhaus is almost our most important player. He's certainly the player who's injury we struggled the most to cover last season.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14870

              #36
              Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              Dalrymple had to fight to be able to take two unknowns with our rookie selections. From memory the coaching staff were pressuring him to take a recycled hack that would have probably played games a few games the next season and then be gone type.

              I don't know how hard to really argue his case for Dal and JJ but thank god he did. Dalhaus pretty much did walk into the side the next season and started playing at a level above your standard AFeL hack would have played. He kicking a few goals and did this thing called tackling that none of our other forwards had seen another forward do before. In fact I think the only game he missed was because we didn't have a player on the LTI list for him to cover.

              Dalhaus is almost our most important player. He's certainly the player who's injury we struggled the most to cover last season.
              I remember being really disappointed at the 2011 intra-club that some tiny rookie with dreadlocks was getting heaps of the ball making our established players look silly.

              Shit, if a rookie who will be lucky to play a few games in 2012 is flogging us, what will other teams do?
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              • westdog54
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6686

                #37
                Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                I count 20 players selects selected, 14 still with us (9 are, ah. Premiership players) and 2 on other lists. That's 16 still on AFeL lists. Not bad.
                Didn't we also draft Markovic and Thorne in 2010?

                And what year was Zeph Skinner drafted?

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66182

                  #38
                  Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

                  Originally posted by westdog54
                  Didn't we also draft Markovic and Thorne in 2010?

                  And what year was Zeph Skinner drafted?
                  Markovic (pick 63) and Thorne (pick 76), 2009,
                  Skinner pick(88), 2010

                  Not exactly first rounders -
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                  • Go_Dogs
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10114

                    #39
                    Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

                    I remember Dahl playing for whoever our VFL affiliate was in his first year at the old Football Park in SA - boy he was impressive with how he moved around the contests. It was obvious he had a lot of skills to translate to the AFL.

                    If forced to choose, I'd go with 2010. We were gifted 2 (as we kind of were in 2012 with those very early selections) but to hit Dahl and JJ in the rookie draft - that'd have to be one of the greatest efforts ever and they've both got many years left.
                    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                    • westdog54
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6686

                      #40
                      Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Markovic (pick 63) and Thorne (pick 76), 2009,
                      Skinner pick(88), 2010

                      Not exactly first rounders -
                      Right you are.

                      We also drafted Jayden Schofield and Tom Hill in 2010.

                      It really was a shallow draft.

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        #41
                        Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

                        Originally posted by westdog54
                        Right you are.

                        We also drafted Jayden Schofield and Tom Hill in 2010.

                        It really was a shallow draft.
                        shallow enough to let a Norm Smith medallist and a kid ready to step up to AFL level almost straightaway. Lucky for us though.

                        Was Dalhaus overlooked because of his height, or lack of height? Now everyone is looking for the new Caleb Daniel pocket rocket, soon kids will be making themselves shorter on their CVs.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66182

                          #42
                          Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          shallow enough to let a Norm Smith medallist and a kid ready to step up to AFL level almost straightaway. Lucky for us though.

                          Was Dalhaus overlooked because of his height, or lack of height? Now everyone is looking for the new Caleb Daniel pocket rocket, soon kids will be making themselves shorter on their CVs.
                          Dahl was overlooked because of his kicking.
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                          • The Pie Man
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2008
                            • 3498

                            #43
                            Re: Pick of the 2010 - 2012 Drafts

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Dahl was overlooked because of his kicking.
                            I remember reading an interview about how his kicking efficiency was very low, though he & his agent tried to (successfully in WB's case) illustrate that a heap of his possessions were won in heavy traffic and hence under pressure.

                            The rest, as they say...
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