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  • always right
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 4189

    Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

    Originally posted by azabob
    Good question Jaytee, I think Boyd has to play. Cordy & Redpath are fighting for 2nd ruck spot and Minson and Campbell are fighting for the number one ruck spot.
    I don't think Cordy and Redpath are fighting for the 2nd ruck spot. Redpath has the CHF spot locked in.....it's just a matter of whether we go in with Cordy or get Boyd and Redpath to support Will.

    Unless I misunderstood your point, which is quite possible. It sounded like one of Cordy or Redpath will miss out altogether.
    I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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    • divvydan
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 1502

      Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

      Boyd has to play because without him Redpath would get the best defender and I don't think Redpath is good enough to beat that defender. All the games that Redpath has gone well in (Rich, Intraclub, Coll), Boyd has been there and the game Redpath struggled in (Melb), Boyd was missing.

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      • Cyberdoggie
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 2859

        Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

        I lot might rest on the team the Weagles select as well.
        I can't remember Minson ever really doing well against Natanui and he seems to be ready to go after playing 75% of the weekends game. Lycett might also play, but the weagles look a little light on for defenders due to injuries so Redpath, Boyd will be important to take advantage of that. I think Ayce will miss out and these two will be backup ruck options.

        Kennedy looks to be in good form as well and we all know how he can destroy us. No Darling so that will make it easier but we will need a defender that has enough pace, height, reach and athleticism to go with Kennedy. I think Hamling needs to play.
        Morris is too small and not quick enough to match it with him these days, Roughead and Talia too slow.
        Unless we hope our team orientated defence can make up for those shortcomings, Hamling might be the only one who could go with Kennedy on a lead and be able to spoil.

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        • Cyberdoggie
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 2859

          Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

          Some of our players will be playing this weekend for Footscray with a possible chance to make the round 1 team:
          Fletcher Roberts, Koby Stevens, Nathan Hrovat, Tom Campbell, Lachie Hunter.

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          • F'scary
            WOOF Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 4089

            Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

            Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
            Some of our players will be playing this weekend for Footscray with a possible chance to make the round 1 team:
            Fletcher Roberts, Koby Stevens, Nathan Hrovat, Tom Campbell, Lachie Hunter.
            It will be hard for any of them to displace those who played in the NAB Cup win against the 'Pies. I would have thought that Hrovat would be the most likely customer for a spot in the starting 22 for round 1. But I don't know for whom. One of the most obvious candidates, Honeychurch, has earned a start in round 1, in my opinion.
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

              Originally posted by F'scary
              It will be hard for any of them to displace those who played in the NAB Cup win against the 'Pies. I would have thought that Hrovat would be the most likely customer for a spot in the starting 22 for round 1. But I don't know for whom. One of the most obvious candidates, Honeychurch, has earned a start in round 1, in my opinion.
              Maybe the bigger bodied Koby for a bit of extra muscle and grunt work around the contested ball?
              Don't know who misses out though after the filth thrashing?

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44679

                Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

                It's hard to see any significant changes from team selected in our game against Collingwood and then our first round clash with West Coast but it's encouraging to think that we soon have the likes of Hrovat, Stevens, Hunter, Smith, Roberts and Biggs available for senior selection.

                Competition for spots will keep the players focused on making the most of their chances. We might lack a few star players that other teams enjoy but we still have a decent list of emerging players.

                I'm very much looking at the first few rounds of the season and seeing which players stand up.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • kruder
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2011
                  • 3858

                  Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

                  What are peoples thoughts on Hamling V Talia? Hamling looks like a natural footballer who can play tall where Talia(not sure he is AFL standard) looks like an athlete playing football who looks to be better suited on playing on mid sized/small types.

                  West Coast forward line will be Tall with a resting ruckman and if we take it on face value that Morris won't play on the gorilla forward then its Hamling over Talia for mine.

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                  • F'scary
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 4089

                    Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

                    Originally posted by divvydan
                    Boyd has to play because without him Redpath would get the best defender and I don't think Redpath is good enough to beat that defender. All the games that Redpath has gone well in (Rich, Intraclub, Coll), Boyd has been there and the game Redpath struggled in (Melb), Boyd was missing.
                    The double-act is reason enough to play them both, but Boyd has been doing enough to be selected on merit anyway and he is only going to get better and better.
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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10162

                      Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      it's encouraging to think that we soon have the likes of Hrovat, Stevens, Hunter, Smith, Roberts and Biggs available for senior selection.
                      It's hard enough to pick a 22 for round 1 at the moment, and considering the above, along with Crameri who is a certainty when able to play, we have a lot of players who deserve a spot. This demonstrates our depth is improving.

                      Whilst we're not quite where the better sides are at, we should be confident we have about 32-34 blokes who could play any given week and do their bit for the team.
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • Webby
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 1880

                        Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

                        Originally posted by kruder
                        What are peoples thoughts on Hamling V Talia? Hamling looks like a natural footballer who can play tall where Talia(not sure he is AFL standard) looks like an athlete playing football who looks to be better suited on playing on mid sized/small types.

                        West Coast forward line will be Tall with a resting ruckman and if we take it on face value that Morris won't play on the gorilla forward then its Hamling over Talia for mine.
                        I think there's room for both of them. They're different types. However I must say that both their kicking skills are poor. Good sides will try to exploit that. Hopefully they'll improve. Hamling's poses more of a like for like option to Roberts. He's more athletic than Roberts and better in a contest, but Robert's' kicking is better.

                        It can't be a bad thing to have three tall defenders competing for spots.

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                        • F'scary
                          WOOF Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 4089

                          Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

                          Originally posted by kruder
                          What are peoples thoughts on Hamling V Talia? Hamling looks like a natural footballer who can play tall where Talia(not sure he is AFL standard) looks like an athlete playing football who looks to be better suited on playing on mid sized/small types.

                          West Coast forward line will be Tall with a resting ruckman and if we take it on face value that Morris won't play on the gorilla forward then its Hamling over Talia for mine.
                          I was so impressed with Hamlet's game against the 'pies that I'd be going with Roughead, Talia and him in the backline.

                          Something like:

                          b: Morris, Roughead, Hamling
                          hb: Murphy, Talia, Wood.
                          Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44679

                            Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

                            Who are the likely candidates for the sub role against West Coast?
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • boydogs
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 5844

                              Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

                              Originally posted by F'scary
                              I was so impressed with Hamlet's game against the 'pies that I'd be going with Roughead, Talia and him in the backline.

                              Something like:

                              b: Morris, Roughead, Hamling
                              hb: Murphy, Talia, Wood.
                              I tend to agree, especially against West Coast. Either M Boyd can come off the bench, or play midfield and we play JJ

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              Who are the likely candidates for the sub role against West Coast?
                              Honeychurch, Jong, Hunter, Stevens, Hrovat
                              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                              Formerly gogriff

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                              • F'scary
                                WOOF Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 4089

                                Re: Team Round 1 vs WCE

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                Who are the likely candidates for the sub role against West Coast?
                                Squad selected for the NAB Cup match against Collingwood.

                                Western Bulldogs
                                1. Jarrad Grant 2. Robert Murphy 3. Mitch Wallis 4. Marcus Bontempelli 4. Matthew Boyd 6. Luke Dahlhaus 9. Jake Stringer 10. Easton Wood 11. Jack Macrae 15. Tom Campbell 17. Tom Boyd 22. Mitch Honeychurch 23. Jordan Roughead 25. Koby Stevens 27. Will Minson 29. Tory Dickson 30. Joel Hamling 32. Michael Talia 33. Sam Darley 35. Caleb Daniel 38. Dale Morris 39. Jason Johannisen 42. Liam Picken 43. Jack Redpath 44. Brett Goodes 46. Lin Jong 49. Ayce Cordy

                                27 Players

                                My thoughts on who misses from that squad: Campbell, Darley, Goodes, Cordy, Stevens. Stevens and Darley didn't play, so a case of bad luck for them but it was a strong performance and a win, so hard to break in.

                                Cordy and Goodes both played well, so will be stiff to miss out but in Cordy's case (& Campbell), I think Minno with Boyd can cover the ruck. Goodes is just unlucky.

                                Players not named in that squad will have to fight their way back in due to the strong performance of the team in that NAB Cup match. Dickson and Grant played too well to have to make way for Crameri and Hrovat. I suppose JJ would be the vulnerable one since he didn't take much part in the game, however, his pace gives us another dimension.

                                To answer, GVGjr's question, very tempting to make Caleb Daniel the sub. Him or JJ.
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