Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    #61
    Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

    It's pretty awful, but I can live with it.

    I showed it to a few neutral supporters who described it as a train wreck.
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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13237

      #62
      Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
      You make sense in regards to creating something more informed. I'm not sure about design background and culture.
      If we were only allowed to use designs limited to our culture, what fun would that be.

      However I am sure that a Wurudjeri or other tribe member would be able to create something more meaningful than what we have. As you say, putting in some symbols in it in regards to the Western regio

      Interesting to hear about your background 1eyedog.

      Hope they get Archie Roach to play on the day.

      The only team in the AFL that have approached the Wurundjeri to get feedback on jumper design is Essendon and that was instigated by Michael Long rather than the football club. Michael, Paddy Ryder and Courtney Dempsey all came into the offices in Abbotsford to discuss options.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66773

        #63
        Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        The only team in the AFL that have approached the Wurundjeri to get feedback on jumper design is Essendon and that was instigated by Michael Long rather than the football club. Michael, Paddy Ryder and Courtney Dempsey all came into the offices in Abbotsford to discuss options.
        The whole idea of the Bulldogs jumper was instigated through Liam Jones. If you read the OP, he approached indigenous artist Anzack Newman.
        FFC: Established 1883

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13237

          #64
          Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

          Originally posted by bornadog
          The whole idea of the Bulldogs jumper was instigated through Liam Jones. If you read the OP, he approached indigenous artist Anzack Newman.
          It's great that Liam did that.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • Webby
            WOOF Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 1880

            #65
            Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

            Originally posted by 1eyedog
            It's great that Liam did that.
            I really can’t see why you’re gushing about this great effort by the AFL, the club and Liam Jones.
            As Plough said: “If I see one more bloke getting a pat on the back, being told well done, you tried hard, I’ll SPEW UP!”

            It’s clear that the AFL have been asleep at the wheel on this one and, not only that, but WBFC were snoozing at the back of the AFL bus.
            The (typically dysfunctional) NRL have been doing it for years, now. Even the SANFL and the WAFL have gotten the jump on the AFL... (and that’s assuming the whole concept/gesture holds any true weight or meaning in any case..)

            The corporatized and reactionary AFL clearly mandated all clubs to create an Indigenous themed Guernsey. The club reacted by asking one or more of its players if they had any Indigenous mates who were artists and could do with a few grand to produce something? LJ said “Yep.”
            No local Wurundjeri were consulted and a (quite nice) piece of blue artwork was commissioned from a Queensland artist who went to school with LJ.

            Too easy. Choose a piece, send it off to the jumper manufacturer, whack the hoops around it and, hey presto! We tick the box and we’ll sell a heap...
            ... Only problem is, it’s an horrific looking football jumper which possesses virtually zero relevance to the local Indigenous community. Probably more importantly (if we’re honest!) it won’t sell.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66773

              #66
              Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

              Originally posted by Webby
              I really can’t see why you’re gushing about this great effort by the AFL, the club and Liam Jones.
              As Plough said: “If I see one more bloke getting a pat on the back, being told well done, you tried hard, I’ll SPEW UP!”

              It’s clear that the AFL have been asleep at the wheel on this one and, not only that, but WBFC were snoozing at the back of the AFL bus.
              The (typically dysfunctional) NRL have been doing it for years, now. Even the SANFL and the WAFL have gotten the jump on the AFL... (and that’s assuming the whole concept/gesture holds any true weight or meaning in any case..)

              The corporatized and reactionary AFL clearly mandated all clubs to create an Indigenous themed Guernsey. The club reacted by asking one or more of its players if they had any Indigenous mates who were artists and could do with a few grand to produce something? LJ said “Yep.”
              No local Wurundjeri were consulted and a (quite nice) piece of blue artwork was commissioned from a Queensland artist who went to school with LJ.

              Too easy. Choose a piece, send it off to the jumper manufacturer, whack the hoops around it and, hey presto! We tick the box and we’ll sell a heap...
              ... Only problem is, it’s an horrific looking football jumper which possesses virtually zero relevance to the local Indigenous community. Probably more importantly (if we’re honest!) it won’t sell.
              Other than that great idea right
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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #67
                Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

                At some point, we just need to agree to disagree.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Greystache
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9775

                  #68
                  Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  At some point, we just need to agree to disagree.
                  I don't agree to that!
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #69
                    Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

                    Originally posted by Greystache
                    I don't agree to that!
                    Well I don't agree to not agreeing to that Ricky?
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15322

                      #70
                      Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      I don't agree to that!
                      I disagree that you don't agree with BT.

                      Do we have agreement on that?
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #71
                        Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        I disagree that you don't agree with BT.

                        Do we have agreement on that?
                        Well to agree we'd need a contract.

                        The parties of the first part..... And only if the contract has a sanity clause. You can't fool me there ain't no sanity clause.

                        (god i love old cinema - name the 1930's movie )
                        Last edited by bulldogtragic; 22-05-2014, 05:41 PM.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66773

                          #72
                          Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Well to agree we'd need a contract.

                          The parties of the first part..... And only if the contract has a sanity clause. You can't fool me there is no sanity clause.

                          (god i love old cinema - name the 1930's movie )
                          sounds like Grouch Marx but can't remember the movie
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66773

                            #73
                            Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #74
                              Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

                              Well done BAD. Chico Grouch. You get a Gold Stamp. The name is also a Queen Album, named after the movie.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66773

                                #75
                                Re: Bulldogs launch Club's first Indigenous Guernsey

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                Well done BAD. Chico Grouch. You get a Gold Stamp. The name is also a Queen Album, named after the movie.
                                WE digrest but I am bored of the negative replies:

                                This one is so funny (it is about the West)

                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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