Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Really?

OK, I exaggerated, he got 4 after showing very little.

[azabob]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Really?

I think BT has taken some poetic license!

[azabob]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

I agree with this approach for all the players but maybe Murphy should be on one year deals from now on.

Why just the one for Murphy? Is it because he relies so much on his pace and evasion skills, which traditional has left players very very quickly.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

OK, I exaggerated, he got 4 after showing very little.

If feels like a 9 year contract.
Come on Ayce

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

If feels like a 9 year contract.
Come on Ayce

Yep. I want nothing more than apologise for every doubt i've ever had with Ayce. I want him to prove me wrong, but like others, we've seen many talls fail to make the grade and it seems a little dejavu.

[GVGjr]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Why just the one for Murphy? Is it because he relies so much on his pace and evasion skills, which traditional has left players very very quickly.

It's mainly his age and as you say the fact that he relies on his pace that could drop off. A 2 year deal is more than okay if we are confident he isn't carrying injuries etc.

[lemmon]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Why just the one for Murphy? Is it because he relies so much on his pace and evasion skills, which traditional has left players very very quickly.

I may be off but I've felt his contributions have started to ease off this year. He's still be good and an important part of the backline but I've just felt we aren't seeing as many dashing runs or precision passes.

Edit- I'm probably wrong, looking back over his stats for the year they match up almost exactly with his stats the last few seasons. Averaging 20 disposals a game at about 85% efficiency which is about his norm for Bobby

[Bornadog]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

I agree with this approach for all the players but maybe Murphy should be on one year deals from now on.

Hawthorn only give one year for players over 30. I like that approach.

[azabob]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Hawthorn only give one year for players over 30. I like that approach.

Do they? I know Adelaide started that trend (how we got the beard) but I hadn't heard of Hawthorn doing it. But it isn't surprising more clubs are following suit.

[Bornadog]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Do they? I know Adelaide started that trend (how we got the beard) but I hadn't heard of Hawthorn doing it. But it isn't surprising more clubs are following suit.

Hawthorn have had this philosophy for a long time and even guys like Crawford were pissed off when contract time came up.

Players just don't realise how quickly their body deteriorates after 30. I know Essendons Fletcher is still going but that isnot the norm. How many players went down hill in their 30's and we kept them on. Think about it.

[azabob]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Hawthorn have had this philosophy for a long time and even guys like Crawford were pissed off when contract time came up.

Players just don't realise how quickly their body deteriorates after 30. I know Essendons Fletcher is still going but that isnot the norm. How many players went down hill in their 30's and we kept them on. Think about it.

Hey BAD, not disagreeing at all, what so ever. It is a fine line between showing a club champion respect they deserve and transitioning the list correctly.

[Bornadog]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Hey BAD, not disagreeing at all, what so ever. It is a fine line between showing a club champion respect they deserve and transitioning the list correctly.

Yes its a hard one. Scott West is a good example. He wanted to play on but Rocket had to tell him he was near the end.

[azabob]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Something that has been discussed previously is can we afford all of Boyd, Murphy, Morris, Gia all leave at the same time.

Do Gia and one other need to go at the end of 2014?

Gia end 2014
Boyd & Murphy end of 2015
Morris end of 2016.

It isn't an exact science, but it would be really interesting to see what JMAC currently thinks our list will look like from 2015 and beyond in terms of the older guys including Cooney and Minson.

[F'scary]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

OK, I exaggerated, he got 4 after showing very little.

Sounds like he's a not-well-endowed flasher.

[F'scary]

Re: Higgins in Contract Talks - How long would we give him?

Make Higgins play the full year before offering the next contract.

It amazes me how often players string a few good performances together when the contract is being negotiated.