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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15333

    #46
    Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

    Originally posted by wimberga
    Would we look at something like our first rounder + Boyd for Jaksch & O'Rourke?
    Im sure we would, but Im also sure that Boyd and GWS wouldn't.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14976

      #47
      Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

      Originally posted by Remi Moses
      Wight was good with the gloves by all accounts.
      Lot of work put into Roughy as a key back, so I reckon he stays there.
      Chase a key forward, Sam Reid for me
      What does Sam Reid possess that Liam Jones doesn't?

      It's hard to compare the two as Reid has rarely attracted the no 1 opposition backman.
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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #48
        Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

        Yeah he seems to be quietly going about his business and with the obvious tall options at the Swans he's definitely starved of opportunities. I see he kicked another 4 goals on thew weekend and may even be leading the NEAFL goal kicking??

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #49
          Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

          Sydney are the blueprint for the bold move we should be looking for.

          Picks 1 and 2 plus JJ for Patton and the GwS 3rd round pick.

          Offer Patton a $600-$800k/year, 5 or 6 year deal

          Or if Hogan wants out; same thing for Melbourne

          I wouldn't cherry pick 3rd and 4th stringers. We need to go after the very best talent by throwing big money at them. That's how GWS got Ward. Effectively that's how we got Crameri.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #50
            Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

            Originally posted by Superdog
            Sydney are the blueprint for the bold move we should be looking for.

            Picks 1 and 2 plus JJ for Patton and the GwS 3rd round pick.

            Offer Patton a $600-$800k/year, 5 or 6 year deal

            Or if Hogan wants out; same thing for Melbourne

            I wouldn't cherry pick 3rd and 4th stringers. We need to go after the very best talent by throwing big money at them. That's how GWS got Ward. Effectively that's how we got Crameri.
            Only problem with that is Sydney got Tippett & Buddy for no ND draft picks. It cost them nothing, other than cash, which they have $900,000 a year more than our club in the salary cap.
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            • Bulldog Joe
              Premiership Moderator
              • Jul 2009
              • 5585

              #51
              Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

              Originally posted by KT31
              These are the two IMO that would slot in nicely to our structure, not sure Boyd would get the job done and if it did not sure he would want to leave.

              First round and Jones ?
              Why would the be interested in Jones ?

              We have already identified that they have a surplus of KPP.

              They would probably want Dahlhaus
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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #52
                Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                Why would the be interested in Jones ?

                We have already identified that they have a surplus of KPP.

                They would probably want Dahlhaus
                Sorry if I take your comments off track. But if Honeychurch, Hrovat and Hunter all become best 22 players can we afford to hold Dahl out? I can't see how we play 4 players around 175cm, and Darcy MacPherson will be the same size if he is drafted FS.

                Sure it's not a pleasant thought as we all love him, but if we can't get a guaranteed KPF with say pick 5, do we package 5 and Dahl to GWS for a Patton and later pick (one they wouldn't use anyway)?
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                • Bulldog Joe
                  Premiership Moderator
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 5585

                  #53
                  Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Sorry if I take your comments off track. But if Honeychurch, Hrovat and Hunter all become best 22 players can we afford to hold Dahl out? I can't see how we play 4 players around 175cm, and Darcy MacPherson will be the same size if he is drafted FS.

                  Sure it's not a pleasant thought as we all love him, but if we can't get a guaranteed KPF with say pick 5, do we package 5 and Dahl to GWS for a Patton and later pick (one they wouldn't use anyway)?
                  I know we may need do something as radical as that, but I would be hoping that we could package someone like Dickson and picks.
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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14976

                    #54
                    Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                    Originally posted by Superdog
                    Or if Hogan wants out; same thing for Melbourne
                    You mean the lifelong Demons fan that is in his first year of a minimum two year contract after spending a year on their VFL alignment list last year?

                    I don't think that's likely to happen.
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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #55
                      Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                      I know we may need do something as radical as that, but I would be hoping that we could package someone like Dickson and picks.
                      Got to give great talent, to get great talent. If were not guaranteed a top KPP in the draft, and a history of KPP overlooking our club, we need someone like a Patton now for our move up the ladder and a few seasons working out how we operate with someone like him in it with others. Dickson is recently re-signed so it won't be him. Hrovat might be an interesting starting point with pick 5, but they will want Dahl. The question is can we cover him, and how much we want a highly talented gorilla FF for our campaign towards another pre-lim and further?
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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14633

                        #56
                        Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                        I know we may need do something as radical as that, but I would be hoping that we could package someone like Dickson and picks.
                        If we are trading Dickson and picks for a KP then they aint going to be a very good one.

                        Got to give up quality for quality. Dahl and say pick 3(if that's what we end with) for Patton would be what we would need if we want something decent.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • The Bulldogs Bite
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11269

                          #57
                          Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                          I think Dahl is (or should be) untouchable for a variety of reasons.

                          I would be (hesitantly) open to trading Smith or Hrovat for the right price - would need to be very good though.
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                          • Greystache
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            #58
                            Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            What does Sam Reid possess that Liam Jones doesn't?

                            It's hard to compare the two as Reid has rarely attracted the no 1 opposition backman.
                            I can't work out the excitement over Reid either, he hasn't improved in 2 years.

                            If Sydney really rated him they wouldn't have destroyed their salary cap and COLA buying both Franklin AND Tippett.
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                            • Greystache
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775

                              #59
                              Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                              Originally posted by chef
                              If we are trading Dickson and picks for a KP then they aint going to be a very good one.

                              Got to give up quality for quality. Dahl and say pick 3(if that's what we end with) for Patton would be what we would need if we want something decent.
                              Yep I agree with that. That's the sort of pain you would have to take if you wanted to get a genuine quality key forward.

                              We can't cover Dahlhaus so I wouldn't do it. McRae and our first pick would get it done too, but again we don't have the depth to cover him. We've just blown too many first round draft picks to have the depth to give up a gun and an early draft pick in a trade. I don't think Smith would get it done (and he's about my favourite player), and talk of Wallis having enough value is absurd.
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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #60
                                Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                                Originally posted by Greystache
                                I can't work out the excitement over Reid either, he hasn't improved in 2 years.

                                If Sydney really rated him they wouldn't have destroyed their salary cap and COLA buying both Franklin AND Tippett.
                                There are no two closer players I can almost ever think of than Liam Jones and Sam Reid, they to me are clones, dead set. I have enough problem with one of them constantly frustrating me, 2 would give me severe hypertension. And to that end, Reid plays 4th tall, can't imagine he'd be any better than Jones at playing 1st tall either. Membrey is the kid to target if the Swans cantal him what other clubs might.
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