2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

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  • chef
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 14623

    Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

    Originally posted by AndrewP6
    Clayton? Wow, that's kind to McCartney, Clayton's been gone for five years. Our lack of development in the last 3-4 is the concern.
    What do you mean wow. Look at our side, we have no core from the time Eade and Clayton were together.

    We have plenty of kids from the last 3 seasons, its the next older group thats hurting us.
    The curse is dead.

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    • G-Mo77
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Apr 2007
      • 9876

      Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

      Originally posted by bornadog
      2011, 2012, 2013, 2014

      Don't forget in Eade's last year 12 players debuted.
      Whoops, didn't count the current year. Duh.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

        If this is our best team, we are much worse than I thought. Much.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • AndrewP6
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2009
          • 8142

          Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

          Originally posted by G-Mo77
          Then there are those who look on the past with rose coloured glasses and continuously blame our current staff.
          That makes no sense at all. The past staff aren't responsible for our currently poor skills. They aren't responsible for the woeful capitulation of the current day. They aren't responsible for the fact we only play for a half, or for the fact our leaders don't stand up when necessary.
          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14623

            Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

            Originally posted by AndrewP6
            That's horribly disrespectful to the guy who lead us to three PF's.
            And out list management from that time. is hurting us now
            The curse is dead.

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            • Hot_Doggies
              Rookie List
              • May 2009
              • 396

              Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              If this is our best team, we are much worse than I thought. Much.
              You have such a sharp football mind, why didn't u post this at half time?

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

                Originally posted by chef
                What do you mean wow. Look at our side, we have no core from the time Eade and Clayton were together.

                We have plenty of kids from the last 3 seasons, its the next older group thats hurting us.
                I mean we have to stop living in, and blaming the past.
                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21833

                  Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

                  Originally posted by AndrewP6
                  It's not about denying it, it's about saying "Well, the past is then past, let's move on". Many aren't capable of that, but blame the decisions of the past for way too long. We can still blame Eade and Clayton, at what point do we blame the current regime for the predicament we're in. Dud draft picks don't account for the current ineptitude.
                  Yes they do. That's entirely the point. The dearth of reasonable talent in the mid range and mid games played range we've suffered from is precisely the reason we've been shithouse in recent seasons.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    That was 4 years ago.
                    Problem is the two AFl plastic who gives a shit teams got the cream of the crop.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66733

                      Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

                      Originally posted by G-Mo77
                      Whoops, didn't count the current year. Duh.
                      Honestly we are better than this performance. But, we can't go into a game with no tall forward.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14623

                        Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

                        Originally posted by AndrewP6
                        I mean we have to stop living in, and blaming the past.
                        But its a big part of the problem, that's just the reality of situation we are in.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • AndrewP6
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8142

                          Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          Yes they do. That's entirely the point. The dearth of reasonable talent in the mid range and mid games played range we've suffered from is precisely the reason we've been shithouse in recent seasons.
                          So player development/coaching has no bearing? Very well, agree to disagree.
                          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                          • G-Mo77
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9876

                            Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

                            Originally posted by AndrewP6
                            That makes no sense at all. The past staff aren't responsible for our currently poor skills. They aren't responsible for the woeful capitulation of the current day. They aren't responsible for the fact we only play for a half, or for the fact our leaders don't stand up when necessary.
                            Those are entirely different issues and are the responsibility of current staff. However we'd have more leaders around had our last list managers hadn't been so short sited.

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                            • G-Mo77
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9876

                              Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Honestly we are better than this performance. But, we can't go into a game with no tall forward.
                              Thought about that midway through the 3rd. Wouldn't have helped, wouldn't have hurt either.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21833

                                Re: 2014 Game Day Round 10 - Gold Coast Suns V Western Bulldogs

                                Originally posted by AndrewP6
                                So player development/coaching has no bearing? Very well, agree to disagree.
                                Yes it does. I'm quite satisfied with how our young players are developing bar a few. Overall, I think that area is the least of our issues.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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