2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

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  • Webby
    WOOF Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 1880

    Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    Was Grant re-injured or was there another reason he couldn't be the sub today?
    Nope. I watched him practicing his goal kicking at WO yesterday alongside LJ. Looked fit to me. Club's probably looking ensure he's ready and firing when he's reintroduced..

    It's terrible timing that Footscray didn't have a game tis weekend.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

      Originally posted by Webby
      Nope. I watched him practicing his goal kicking at WO yesterday alongside LJ. Looked fit to me. Club's probably looking ensure he's ready and firing when he's reintroduced..

      It's terrible timing that Footscray didn't have a game tis weekend.
      I can't understand why Grant can play VFL last week, but can't get a quarter of footy as a sub when he can enter when the game slows down as the players tire.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • The Bulldogs Bite
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 11267

        Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

        The statistics and the end result - has that ever happened before, to this degree?

        I know we talk about development and this being a long term plan, but reality is we're 2.5 years into this and can we categorically say we are a better side than we were in 2012? On paper yes, but results suggest otherwise IMO. The call is marginal.
        W00F!

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21836

          Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          I can't understand why Grant can play VFL last week, but can't get a quarter of footy as a sub when he can enter when the game slows down as the players tire.
          He could have been sore, he may not be hitting the KPI's he's been prescribed. The coaching staff may not know what they're doing and are not as smart as us.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10145

            Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

            Originally posted by jeemak
            He could have been sore, he may not be hitting the KPI's he's been prescribed. The coaching staff may not know what they're doing and are not as smart as us.
            Is anyone hitting their KPIs?
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

              Originally posted by jeemak
              He could have been sore, he may not be hitting the KPI's he's been prescribed. The coaching staff may not know what they're doing and are not as smart as us.
              Makes sense, the club gave Ayce 4 years and a decade earlier lost a once in a generation forward when they cut 'The Ugg'. Seriously, there was about 30 seconds of special footy three years later for the Tassie VFL team. Special footy, and we missed it.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                Is anyone hitting their KPIs?
                On cue. Question of the day to you Mr Days.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Hotdog60
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5911

                  Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  Sorry, I've been bouncing around having a look at all the bumped threads and forgot to come back to this one.

                  Redpath spoke very well. He talked about being played in the back half for a period of time as part of his development. They then confirmed they wanted him back in the forward line to see if he had learned what he needed to. Said there was still some things that he has been asked to improve on. Redpath mentioned that he is playing the best football and loves playing for Footscray. Mentioned it was better than having 8 players in the reserves. He talked about being injured a few weeks back.

                  He thinks the VFL listed players are great blokes and talked about the up and down results so far this season. I think it's directly related to the standard of the competition. It's not great.

                  Redpath indicated that he thinks he is a chance to earn a promotion and hinted it would be for a few weeks.

                  Shares accommodation with Christian Howard.

                  My take on it is that Redpath believes he will be given a chance to play. Interestingly in the Match Committee thread I don't think anyone has suggested a promotion to the side against the Lions. Last week there was plenty saying he should be picked against Freo.

                  Is there a better time to promote him than against the Lions?
                  Thanks for that, I would like to give him a shot. We need a presence up forward and if Redpath can be promoted I think we need to give him a go.
                  Don't piss off old people
                  The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11265

                    Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

                    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                    The statistics and the end result - has that ever happened before, to this degree?
                    That is what has completely surprised me. We have basically smashed Freo in every key statistical measurement and yet didn't even get close to winning. Are opposition coaches simply structuring up for us to win the contested ball and the clearance and picking us off on the turnover? Whilst the statistical imbalance was exaggerated today, it has been a common occurrence to win these key stats and still lose. I'm still very much unconvinced that BMac has the necessary tactical acumen on match days - it's not stretching things to suggest that we lack a level of refinement and tactical nous in the box to match it with other teams on game day.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      That is what has completely surprised me. We have basically smashed Freo in every key statistical measurement and yet didn't even get close to winning. Are opposition coaches simply structuring up for us to win the contested ball and the clearance and picking us off on the turnover? Whilst the statistical imbalance was exaggerated today, it has been a common occurrence to win these key stats and still lose. I'm still very much unconvinced that BMac has the necessary tactical acumen on match days - it's not stretching things to suggest that we lack a level of refinement and tactical nous in the box to match it with other teams on game day.
                      I struggle to think of one game this year when I can clearly say our coaches box was better than the others. We should be after a match day veteran to consult on match days, and as Bomber Thompson wants to do something in footy, but on a much reduced basis, we should be wooing Bomber with everything we've got.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9876

                        Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

                        Pretty disappointing day at the footy. Yeah we took it to one of the best teams in the comp at times but still have major problems holding a level of consistent competitive football. Our skill level and decision making is deplorable, I really cringe at some of our errors, it's down right embarrassing. Some of our players don't have a football brain between them. Do we have specialist skills coaches there? What we can do well at times is grind a team down to a respectable loss, is this at the expense of everything else?

                        I don't know? I'm a realist and though we'd be in a position similar to last year and we are it's just hard to take.

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                        • macca
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2368

                          Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

                          Was at game today. A lot of supporters were bemoaning how senseless our disposal is , they were very frustrated. We can win
                          The contested ball. , good at stoppages but its the next kick out that erroringly lands in Freo players hand. I recall that's how the first Freo goal went.

                          We have no leading forwards today. Countless time crowd was crying out to Williams to led and he just sat in goal square and wrestled, and even worse when ball did come he lost his footing often.
                          We are also letting our young players down when I saw hrovat lead in 3 qtr and he was ignore we all cringed in angst, ball gets turned over .

                          Zac Clarke was allowed to room too freely today had no idea who was on him but he had 2 goal assists.

                          We led all stats including frees 11-2 at 3 qtr time and trailed by 4 goals.

                          It was very painful to watch had fought efforts to win the ball yet to cough it up with stupid kicks. Why are we perisisting with this makeshift forward line? We ned to find a foward who leads, demand the ball and knows how to find space

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                          • macca
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2368

                            Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

                            Williams does not know how to lead or double back and lead. All his marks today were leadin outside thr50 m arc. He had plenty of opportunity to lead today . Is he being instructed to sit in the goal square? Dawson look like a marking machine today. To the coaches why do we persist with Williams after today's effort? I don't question his effort but his not a forward against top quality discipline mature body sides

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

                              Originally posted by macca
                              Williams does not know how to lead or double back and lead. All his marks today were leadin outside thr50 m arc. He had plenty of opportunity to lead today . Is he being instructed to sit in the goal square? Dawson look like a marking machine today. To the coaches why do we persist with Williams after today's effort? I don't question his effort but his not a forward against top quality discipline mature body sides
                              Our talls other than Jones don't lead. I think they see how well Ayce is doing with wrestling opponents and want to do the same. Surely Mooney and Shaggers Grant are telling them to not move and only wrestle... But most seem to be doing it week in and week out... To be honest Williams is a tough guy, great club man, committed on the track, of great charachter. But I'm just not believing he's an AFL footballer anymore, if any other clubs do get them to send their enquiry onto J. McCartney, C/O Whitten Oval, Footscray, Victoria.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Remi Moses
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 14785

                                Re: 2014 Game Day Round 11 - Western Bulldogs V Fremantle

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                That is what has completely surprised me. We have basically smashed Freo in every key statistical measurement and yet didn't even get close to winning. Are opposition coaches simply structuring up for us to win the contested ball and the clearance and picking us off on the turnover? Whilst the statistical imbalance was exaggerated today, it has been a common occurrence to win these key stats and still lose. I'm still very much unconvinced that BMac has the necessary tactical acumen on match days - it's not stretching things to suggest that we lack a level of refinement and tactical nous in the box to match it with other teams on game day.
                                Yep. They just wait for us to win it and pressure us to turn it over.
                                We tackle in a contested situation ( our pressure there is good) once it comes out we don't tackle.
                                Our one on ones are not good enough. How was Johnson allowed to roam as the extra the whole game?

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