Match Committee - Round 13 vs Collingwood

[Happy Days]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13 vs Collingwood

When Brisbane got on top Taylor, Green and Zorko were literally running rings around us. We don't need an inside tagger like Wallis in the side, we need more speed

Where is it coming from? Tutt is terrible and JJ has looked just as bad in the firsts this year too. Picken was tagging Zorko and got smashed, and if we're getting beaten by Josh Green and a first year player then there's bigger problem then a lack of leg speed. Maybe the reason they looked so quick is because we were once again too focused on the first possession and not on the spread, as well as constantly turning the ball over by making terrible decisions.

Well not maybe, that was the reason. Nearly every stoppage looked like a human representation of the planet Saturn; a ball of bulldogs running head first into each other surrounded by a ring of Lions, sweating the turnover that they knew would come.

[GVGjr]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13 vs Collingwood

Would it the be better then to keep Mitch in and leave out Boyd ?

Boyds been in very good form, how does it help by leaving him out?

[azabob]

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Where is it coming from? Tutt is terrible and JJ has looked just as bad in the firsts this year too. Picken was tagging Zorko and got smashed, and if we're getting beaten by Josh Green and a first year player then there's bigger problem then a lack of leg speed. Maybe the reason they looked so quick is because we were once again too focused on the first possession and not on the spread, as well as constantly turning the ball over by making terrible decisions.

Well not maybe, that was the reason. Nearly every stoppage looked like a human representation of the planet Saturn; a ball of bulldogs running head first into each other surrounded by a ring of Lions, sweating the turnover that they knew would come.

Nice observations, which I think are pretty much spot on.

[Bulldog4life]

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Where is it coming from? Tutt is terrible and JJ has looked just as bad in the firsts this year too. Picken was tagging Zorko and got smashed, and if we're getting beaten by Josh Green and a first year player then there's bigger problem then a lack of leg speed. Maybe the reason they looked so quick is because we were once again too focused on the first possession and not on the spread, as well as constantly turning the ball over by making terrible decisions.

Well not maybe, that was the reason. Nearly every stoppage looked like a human representation of the planet Saturn; a ball of bulldogs running head first into each other surrounded by a ring of Lions, sweating the turnover that they knew would come.

Personally I think Tutt has improved this year.

[boydogs]

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Would it the be better then to keep Mitch in and leave out Boyd ?

Boyd's faster

Where is it coming from? Tutt is terrible and JJ has looked just as bad in the firsts this year too.

Tutt has been OK & JJ has been disappointing. You can't just play without speed though, just like you can't say we don't have any good tall forwards so we'll just play 6 Dahlhauses.

Picken was tagging Zorko and got smashed, and if we're getting beaten by Josh Green and a first year player then there's bigger problem then a lack of leg speed. Maybe the reason they looked so quick is because we were once again too focused on the first possession and not on the spread, as well as constantly turning the ball over by making terrible decisions.

Well not maybe, that was the reason. Nearly every stoppage looked like a human representation of the planet Saturn; a ball of bulldogs running head first into each other surrounded by a ring of Lions, sweating the turnover that they knew would come.

Picken wasn't opposed to Zorko all game, but he should have been. We have to stop stacking our best players into the backline to keep us in it, they are needed in other parts of the ground. Higgins, Picken, Murphy and Roughead could solve our problems further up the ground but are instead left to deal with delivery into the forward line from players with plenty of time and space.

Maybe Minson wouldn't be so lethargic if Roughead was rucking for even 20% of the game. Maybe the Brisbane forwards wouldn't get undefendable passes if Picken stopped Zorko from getting the ball in space. Maybe Gia wouldn't show the forward line up so much if Higgins was up there all game. Maybe we would be able to transition the ball from defense to the forward line and actually take a mark if Crameri wasn't forced to lead up past centre to present, and Murphy was doing it instead.

I'm bringing in Stringer & Johannisen to release Murphy & Higgins forward. Honeychurch is better than Bontempelli at going from contest to contest and preventing the opposition from getting the ball into space. Boyd is a better tagger and a better player than Wallis at this stage

[lemmon]

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Personally I think Tutt has improved this year.

Agree, he's definitely a better player but I still question whether he's cut out for this level. For the type of player he is, he has to be a better user of the footy on the outside, I still cringe when he gets it

[azabob]

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Agree, he's definitely a better player but I still question whether he's cut out for this level. For the type of player he is, he has to be a better user of the footy on the outside, I still cringe when he gets it

I think the basic building blocks skill wise are there, if he can get use to the pace of the game and continue to work on taking the physical hits etc.

[always right]

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Where is it coming from? Tutt is terrible and JJ has looked just as bad in the firsts this year too. Picken was tagging Zorko and got smashed, and if we're getting beaten by Josh Green and a first year player then there's bigger problem then a lack of leg speed. Maybe the reason they looked so quick is because we were once again too focused on the first possession and not on the spread, as well as constantly turning the ball over by making terrible decisions.

Well not maybe, that was the reason. Nearly every stoppage looked like a human representation of the planet Saturn; a ball of bulldogs running head first into each other surrounded by a ring of Lions, sweating the turnover that they knew would come.

For accuracy.....Picken was not smashed by Zorko. He wasn't even on him for most of the first half and managed to quieten him when he did go onto him late second quarter.

[JohnGentStand]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13 vs Collingwood

Ins: Boyd, Cordy
Outs: Howard, Stevens

[Bornadog]

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Agree, he's definitely a better player but I still question whether he's cut out for this level. For the type of player he is, he has to be a better user of the footy on the outside, I still cringe when he gets it

I find Tutt is like a rabbit looking at headlights when any player is attacking him. He just doesn't have footy smarts and panicks. eg. Third quarter he is running along the boundary, Williams leads out just ignores him and slams the ball on to the boot and Brisbane take the ball away. Williams rightly annoyed at him. It was dumb football.

[Mantis]

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For accuracy.....Picken was not smashed by Zorko. He wasn't even on him for most of the first half and managed to quieten him when he did go onto him late second quarter.

He was indirectly as Zorko was their spare behind the ball and Picken was ours.

[KT31]

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Boyds been in very good form, how does it help by leaving him out?

I don't agree with leaving either out, but if it ever came down to a selection between the two I would go with Mitch as the more games he plays the better we will be for it.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13 vs Collingwood

Why on earth would you have Roughead up the ground when he is learning his craft and doing well down back.
Strange

[Remi Moses]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13 vs Collingwood

I don't agree with leaving either out, but if it ever came down to a selection between the two I would go with Mitch as the more games he plays the better we will be for it.

Agree with this . At years end Boyd had to be moved .

[Webby]

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Agree with this . At years end Boyd had to be moved .

It's true that Boyd is in the same category as Cross 12 months ago. Bottlenecking the development if our kids, but still with another year of decent footy in him.

So another scenario is trading Griffen for a pick, taking a kid, and keeping Boyd for another year as a senior mentor.... Just a thought..