Picking a Bulldog Captain

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #1

    Picking a Bulldog Captain

    Having heard a few youngsters over the last little bit speak and play, I think I might have said "this kid should be a future captain" a few times now, in fact I know I've said it about many pups. Jack, Marcus, Nathan, Jordan, Mitch etc all have that certain something that screams not only leader, but captain and club ambassador.

    This time around Griffen was clearly the standout, but I'm guessing next time around it will be like the era before, before last when Grant, West, Smith & Johnson could have all been great captains and ambassadors. All those men are club heroes and legends, but only 2 are etched on the honour board as club captains in a most amazing group of players and men. There've been many a club before get into a position where they've not had anyone standout (Nick Maxwell seemed judged harshly at the time of appointment), as far as 'problems' go what a wonderful 'problem' to have!

    Not in necessarily picking a name, but in the general sense for you personally:

    In looking forward how does a future captain stand out, from a group of highly talented & outstanding young leaders?
    Is it just on onfield talent?
    Is it physical courage?
    Or equally both?
    Does their onfield position mean anything?
    Do you subscribe to co-captains?

    I think were all hoping Griffen is a premiership captain, but (not being negative) if it happens to be our next tilt at a flag is the captain after, then it's a major appointment to the next person if we think they will be a premiership captain. It's a very small club that one, imagine being the one to join Charlie in that club!
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5845

    #2
    Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

    I think having an ability to influence games on field is an important part of it. That's where Griffen gets a big tick, he played a real captains game on the weekend battling through soreness and finding a way to keep contributing. He doesn't have the most interesting personality and he isn't the best public speaker but he has everyone's respect for the way he goes about his footy and he is an example to others with his work ethic in games and standing up when needed
    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

    Formerly gogriff

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

      I think it'd have more to do with off-field, during the week at training leadership than just who the better player is on game day, although yes that does still count.

      My criteria:
      1. Can see a game going awry and turn it around
      2. Shows the way at training and in the weights room
      3. Has the attention of the entire group during meetings, etc.
      4. Can speak well to the media, not just cliches but when under the pump. Gia is still our best guy for this.
      5. 100% effort and intensity, 100% of the time.

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      • Bulldog Joe
        Premiership Moderator
        • Jul 2009
        • 5628

        #4
        Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

        We are well placed for future leaders with the current crop.

        I have been at club events where Jordan Roughead, Mitch Wallis and recently Bontempelli and Honeychurch spoke to the group. All were very impressive. You also see leadership on field already from Macrae. I think Easton Wood is also capable.

        Nice problem to have and obviously a sign that the "good people" mantra is important.
        Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13387

          #5
          Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

          The most positively influential player at the club (ala Tom Harley). When they speak everyone listens, very solid player and prepared to always lead by example.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67701

            #6
            Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

            Originally posted by 1eyedog
            The most positively influential player at the club (ala Tom Harley). When they speak everyone listens, very solid player and prepared to always lead by example.
            Who?
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Greystache
              WOOF Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              #7
              Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Who?
              Roughy
              [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27682

                #8
                Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

                Yep. It's got to be Roughy.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #9
                  Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  Yep. It's got to be Roughy.
                  Darren Glass says you can do it easily, so you learned gents say you don't need a ball winner or goal kicker?
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13387

                    #10
                    Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

                    Originally posted by Greystache
                    Roughy
                    X2

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    Yep. It's got to be Roughy.
                    Yep we've discussed this. They love him down there - solid pedigree that family it seems Jarryd is very highly respected at Hawthorn. Smith is my next candidate.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • Dry Rot
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6471

                      #11
                      Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

                      Hrovat is the man. has a good track record as a leader.
                      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67701

                        #12
                        Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

                        Originally posted by Dry Rot
                        Hrovat is the man. has a good track record as a leader.
                        Yes I agree. Sat at my table at the season launch, terrific young man, spoke so well, couldn't believe he was 19 years old.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6599

                          #13
                          Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

                          For someone not as involved personally, why are Roughy and Hrovat so highly rated internally?

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                          • Murphy'sLore
                            WOOF Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2085

                            #14
                            Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

                            Didn't Macca once pick Roughy as the most likely Prime Minister? You'd think being captain of WBFC would be only a slightly more difficult job...

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13387

                              #15
                              Re: Picking a Bulldog Captain

                              Originally posted by lemmon
                              For someone not as involved personally, why are Roughy and Hrovat so highly rated internally?
                              From what I've heard having met him and heard others talk about him he has a great sense of humor and is very charismatic. Being smart, funny, speaking well, being tall and good looking (ala. Darcy) helps to influence people.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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