2014 Game Day Round 19 - Hawthorn V Western Bulldogs

[Sedat]

Re: 2014 Game Day Round 19 - Hawthorn V Western Bulldogs

He smashed big boy in hit outs which really is his core role. McEvoy just took more marks around the ground as per usual which always dolls him up.

Actually Hawthorn won the hitouts 44 to 43. Minno really should be toying with an opponent like McEvoy in his core role but that wasn't the case yesterday.

In any event we got smashed in the clearances which suggests to me that he was ineffective with his hitouts. And we all know he was ineffective around the ground. Right here and now, Campbell has far more strings to his bow elsewhere around the ground - Minson really need to lift.

[lemmon]

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Watching the replay now and had to mention what the hell was going on with Roughead's fourth goal? That is some of the most shambolic defending I've ever seen. Being caught on the break is one thing but the amount of space and loose men they had in the forward 50 is astounding, not to mention the Hawks kicker took the wrong option into the forward 50 but our ridiculous defending in the marking contest gave up the goal anyway.

It's just one passage of play but I had to mention it for how seriously putrid it was.

[Hotdog60]

Re: 2014 Game Day Round 19 - Hawthorn V Western Bulldogs

Did we miss Wally in the centre?

[Bornadog]

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Watching the replay now and had to mention what the hell was going on with Roughead's fourth goal? That is some of the most shambolic defending I've ever seen. Being caught on the break is one thing but the amount of space and loose men they had in the forward 50 is astounding, not to mention the Hawks kicker took the wrong option into the forward 50 but our ridiculous defending in the marking contest gave up the goal anyway.

It's just one passage of play but I had to mention it for how seriously putrid it was.

There is no real leadership in the back half. Our Roughead has a long way to go and maybe playing with his confidence shot. We need a general in the backline.

[Eastdog]

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There is no real leadership in the back half. Our Roughead has a long way to go and maybe playing with his confidence shot. We need a general in the backline.

Morris but his experienced and not up and coming.

[1eyedog]

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Actually Hawthorn won the hitouts 44 to 43. Minno really should be toying with an opponent like McEvoy in his core role but that wasn't the case yesterday.

In any event we got smashed in the clearances which suggests to me that he was ineffective with his hitouts. And we all know he was ineffective around the ground. Right here and now, Campbell has far more strings to his bow elsewhere around the ground - Minson really need to lift.

Yes but the point is he did. Hale got hold of a heap of hit outs which skews the overall numbers. Point is Minson got hold of big boy at stoppages and was in most reporters bests.

[always right]

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People should watch the second quarter again. I was impressed that after a poor first quarter Will absolutely dominated McEvoy, forcing Hale to spend more time in the ruck. Libba was the benefit of much of Will's work.

[Ozza]

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There is no real leadership in the back half. Our Roughead has a long way to go and maybe playing with his confidence shot. We need a general in the backline.

Is Morris not the general? Murphy?

If you ever hear the defenders speaking either in media or in the social club before games, they regularly talk about the leadership of Morris and Murphy down back.

[Bornadog]

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Is Morris not the general? Murphy?

If you ever hear the defenders speaking either in media or in the social club before games, they regularly talk about the leadership of Morris and Murphy down back.

Well it was a bit of a mess against the Hawks, so not working.

[chef]

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Well it was a bit of a mess against the Hawks, so not working.

Hawks are a pretty good side though.

[1eyedog]

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Well it was a bit of a mess against the Hawks, so not working.

I don't reckon Roughie is quite right ATM.

[always right]

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I don't reckon Roughie is quite right ATM.

Apparently it had more to do with the lack of leadership from Murph and Morris.

[Bornadog]

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I don't reckon Roughie is quite right ATM.

Agree, his confidence is shot at the moment. I still think he is effected by the shoulder injury.

Apparently it had more to do with the lack of leadership from Murph and Morris.

Oh, thanks for letting us know.

[Go_Dogs]

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I've removed a couple of posts, let's keep the thread on track.

[1eyedog]

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[QUOTE=bornadog;388948]Agree, his confidence is shot at the moment. I still think he is effected by the shoulder injury.


Yeah they're not mutually exclusive. Upper body injuries are bad for football because there is just so much constant contact there - JJ still hasn't recovered mentally. Roughie's confidence is down and he is either sore of has no confidence in his shoulder or both. Just my take.