Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

[Bornadog]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

I posted this in another thread but should probably post it here given the thread title.

We upgraded our Lake compensation for pick 21 and got a 10 year player - I'm not sure we got bugger all for him. I'm wrapped with how it worked out for us and I think the club was too. I'm happy to trade Cooney out - he'll be 30 next year with the knee of 60 year old. Boyd also should have been traded last year while he still had some currency. We need to move up the draft order and / or increase our options at both the trade / draft table at every opportunity. Both Cooney and Boyd provide / provided an opportunity to do that. Pick 28 for Cooney and Jones is ok for me although I'd prefer more but this is our last chance to get something for Cooney. Jones is not in our best 22 and Cooney may have one year left - what's there to lose exactly?

If we are concerned about the fabric / culture of the club and not trading away champions well that philosophy to me is one of the main reasons why we haven't won a premiership. Times have changed and I think Macca is now seeing things differently and making big calls. For mine, I'd rather have an extended run at a premiership with a bunch of quality 10 year players than slowly nurse our vets through the last 1-2 years of their career. If someone can make better use of Cooney in their window (and I have absolutely no idea why Carlton are interested in him to be honest) then we need to do it. In 10 years time what will we remember? That we traded a 29 year old player on one knee or the extended run we had at the finals because we were smart with our trading? We need to get the players we need who are in the same age profile so we give them not only an opportunity to play finals together but have an extended run at them like Geelong and Hawthorn have.

I'm getting old and sick and tired of not playing Grand Final footy - let's do it.

What I am sick of is we keep players like Fuller, Pearce on the list and players like Jones and Cooney people are happy to let go.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

What I am sick of is we keep players like Fuller, Pearce on the list and players like Jones and Cooney people are happy to let go.

Exactly. One never knows when a 1996 debacle turns into a 1997 near fairy tale. One thing is certain, losing players that can make that happen while holding onto list cloggers makes it near impossible. I think we're glossing over the fact that 4 players we wanted to keep, all high draft picks, look to be walking out of the club. Last year we were saying the Lions were a basket case because 5 talented players jumped ship. Something is not right, I'm not sure exactly what.

[stefoid]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

OK, did the math:

young, goodes, howard, gia, williams, higgins, jones, cooney, tutt = 9 out.
jong, cordy + mooted 1x1 + 3x2 picks = 6.

So 3rd rounder defiantely useful, even if we end up upgrading Redpath and Austin.

[1eyedog]

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What I am sick of is we keep players like Fuller, Pearce on the list and players like Jones and Cooney people are happy to let go.

But really they are pretty cheap to maintain aren't they? Jones and Cooney would be on far bigger coin. I agree that we need to make a decision on Fuller and Pearce and I'm not adverse to cutting them now even though we seem to have freed up a number of spots on the list.

[jeemak]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

Exactly. One never knows when a 1996 debacle turns into a 1997 near fairy tale. One thing is certain, losing players that can make that happen while holding onto list cloggers makes it near impossible. I think we're glossing over the fact that 4 players we wanted to keep, all high draft picks, look to be walking out of the club. Last year we were saying the Lions were a basket case because 5 talented players jumped ship. Something is not right, I'm not sure exactly what.

Which four high draft picks are you referring to?

Cooney and Higgins were high draft picks, sure. Jones and Tutt who were not high draft picks are leaving a bottom four side after hardly being able to get a game.

[Hot_Doggies]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

Exactly. One never knows when a 1996 debacle turns into a 1997 near fairy tale. One thing is certain, losing players that can make that happen while holding onto list cloggers makes it near impossible. I think we're glossing over the fact that 4 players we wanted to keep, all high draft picks, look to be walking out of the club. Last year we were saying the Lions were a basket case because 5 talented players jumped ship. Something is not right, I'm not sure exactly what.

Higgins didn't walk out, we offered him 2yrs on average money and forced him to look elsewhere.

Smart move by the club IMHO.

Tutt is a fringe player.

Jones has talent, but may never reach AFL standard. Prefer to keep him but these things happen.

Cooney is almost buggered. Not great defensively and wouldn't surprise me if he was a bit 'Brian Lake' around the club.


Club hasn't put a foot wrong so far in the offseason. (So far)

[jeemak]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

This is what he said last year when signing a two year contract:

Which says to me we want to move Adam along (notwithstanding my expectation Cooney would of course say something like that on the day he signed a contract extension).

I'm keeping an open mind BAD.

[1eyedog]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

What I am sick of is we keep players like Fuller, Pearce on the list and players like Jones and Cooney people are happy to let go.

Pearce and Fuller have zero currency. Jones and Cooney have some and that's the difference. If we were struggling to free spaces I would agree entirely - I'm pretty certain Fuller will not amount to anything.

[LostDoggy]

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Exactly. One never knows when a 1996 debacle turns into a 1997 near fairy tale. One thing is certain, losing players that can make that happen while holding onto list cloggers makes it near impossible. I think we're glossing over the fact that 4 players we wanted to keep, all high draft picks, look to be walking out of the club. Last year we were saying the Lions were a basket case because 5 talented players jumped ship. Something is not right, I'm not sure exactly what.

...and Brisbane turned what looked like being an exodus into one of the best single team draft combinations in recent memory. They've potentially added at least half of those boys as ten+ year players. Why can this opportunity not be the same for us?

[ledge]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

Once trade period is over we might cut ones we couldn't trade.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Once trade period is over we might cut ones we couldn't trade.

I would think it is a case of WILL cut after the trade period.

[always right]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

The Age article suggests Cooney is comfortable about the possibility of moving elsewhere. The fact that he joined the Hawthorn players's premiership celebration the day after may also sugest that he might see the merits in a move similar to the one his mate Brian made.

[KT31]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

The Age article suggests Cooney is comfortable about the possibility of moving elsewhere. The fact that he joined the Hawthorn players's premiership celebration the day after may also sugest that he might see the merits in a move similar to the one his mate Brian made.

Not going to happen if he goes to the Blues.

[Ozza]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

The Age article suggests Cooney is comfortable about the possibility of moving elsewhere. The fact that he joined the Hawthorn players's premiership celebration the day after may also sugest that he might see the merits in a move similar to the one his mate Brian made.

It might also just suggest that he wanted to celebrate with his mate...as he did the year before!

[Jeanette54]

Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

This is what he said last year when signing a two year contract

"I wasn't close at all," he said. "I've said all along I wanted to stay at the footy club - it's the place that gave me my start. I've been here for 10 years, I'm rapt to sign on for another two and hopefully be a Bulldog for life.":

"Strong, bold, cheeky, proud and loyal.

Adam has demonstrated all of the qualities espoused in the marketing of our logo. I think we owe him the same.

If, by chance, he truly wanted to go I would be only to pleased to wish him all the best for his future, and thank him for the pleasure and service he has given over the years.

If its not something he wants then it doesn't sit well with me.

There is a lot to say for being a one club player. If you don't believe this ask Douggie Hawkins.