McDougall against the Bombers

[The Underdog]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

Lucas is very good but McDougall was very poor. Lucas is not fast but he turned Mcdougall inside out numerous times and he was made to look slow. Look asleep and had no confidence.
Agree Lake would have been a better option but would Lake would get Lloyd normally?
As least we now know McDougall should not be in the starting 22.

Lake would get Lloyd normally which is a worry, because he got belted by Hille.
Would have been interested to see Everitt have a go on Lucas, but as he was also belted by Lovett-Murray early, not sure it would have helped.
I agree McDougall was very ordinary, some poor decision making, but he wasn't on his lonesome either.
I get the feeling he's our new scapegoat. Maybe we could start a tradition much like Richmond giving No 17 to the captain, and just hand 23 to the season scapegoat

[Mantis]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

Lucas is very good but McDougall was very poor. Lucas is not fast but he turned Mcdougall inside out numerous times and he was made to look slow. Look asleep and had no confidence.
Agree Lake would have been a better option but would Lake would get Lloyd normally?
As least we now know McDougall should not be in the starting 22.

On Friday night's performance you could say that about 4 or 6 of our 'regular' players. (Not the kids)

[easybeat]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

His performance Friday night was just lame.
I didn't see any positive signs for the coming year from anyone.

[Twodogs]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

Lucas is very good but McDougall was very poor. Lucas is not fast but he turned Mcdougall inside out numerous times and he was made to look slow. Look asleep and had no confidence.
Agree Lake would have been a better option but would Lake would get Lloyd normally?
As least we now know McDougall should not be in the starting 22.

It's a starting 18. The rest are on the bench.

[LostDoggy]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

It's a starting 18. The rest are on the bench.

ok smart arse
Well he isn't starting 18 or the selected 22.

[Bornadog]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

ok smart arse
Well he isn't starting 18 or the selected 22.

You can't right off McDougall based on one crappy practise match. He needs to gain some confidence as do some of the other guys like Everrit.

For me its all too early to call.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

I think we should show some faith in McDougall, especially early. If Williams can't get right, or Lake goes down this year, having McDougall in reasonable form, with confidence will be crucial.

[LostDoggy]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

You can't right off McDougall based on one crappy practise match. He needs to gain some confidence as do some of the other guys like Everrit.

For me its all too early to call.

Well I think you can write him off for round 1 in the named 22 if Williams and Lake are available. Pretty sure Eade said it to TCD.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

Well I think you can write him off for round 1 in the named 22 if Williams and Lake are available. Pretty sure Eade said it to TCD.

I'm sorry Ern, I can't recall that being said.

[The Underdog]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

As ordinary as he was at times in the game on Friday night, the fact is that if Lake or Williams don't get up for Round 1, McDougall will be a starter in a defensive key position post. I still think he can be a contributor. I doubt he'll ever be a seriously consistent top level player but he may prove an ok depth player. His form in the last few games last year was ok in a very bad team. Here's hoping he can get a bit of confidence up and help the team.
It's certainly too early in the season to write him off completely.

[westdog54]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

I find it perculiar, no that's not the right word, aggrieved perhaps, that although Doogs and Lake both had evenings they'd rather forget, it seems to be Doogs copping more than his fair percentage of criticism. Surely there should be closer scrutiny on the reigning Charlie Sutton Medallist than a player who is not in our best 22?

[The Underdog]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

I find it perculiar, no that's not the right word, aggrieved perhaps, that although Doogs and Lake both had evenings they'd rather forget, it seems to be Doogs copping more than his fair percentage of criticism. Surely there should be closer scrutiny on the reigning Charlie Sutton Medallist than a player who is not in our best 22?

I understand that Lake may have been injured during or for the game but I thought the fact that he was destroyed by Hille was a lot more disappointing than Doogs getting put away by Lucas who is a far more proven forward.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

I'm sorry Ern, I can't recall that being said.

I can.

I asked specifically about Mcdougall and Rodney said "he's a long way from our best 22".

If Lake and Williams don't play Mcdougall plays by default (my opinion, not a Rodney comment).

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

I find it perculiar, no that's not the right word, aggrieved perhaps, that although Doogs and Lake both had evenings they'd rather forget, it seems to be Doogs copping more than his fair percentage of criticism. Surely there should be closer scrutiny on the reigning Charlie Sutton Medallist than a player who is not in our best 22?

You do get cut some slack when you need surgery after the game.

[westdog54]

Re: McDougall against the Bombers

You do get cut some slack when you need surgery after the game.

Fair point, but Doogs was never going to beat Lucas over the course of the match. Lucas is too damn good for him. Hille vs Lake on the other hand is a different story.