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  • chef
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 14634

    Re: Coach resigns

    Originally posted by bornadog
    I said it before, when your only A Grade player and captain wants out there are serious problems at the club.
    And I guess he's a big part of the problem.
    The curse is dead.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21845

      Re: Coach resigns

      That was really disappointing. I don't doubt the McCartney communication must have been a significant issue, and I also think more than just a few senior players were affected by it.

      However, the Club including the coach, captain and administration committed to changing and should have stayed the course. The President himself acknowledged this issue has only come to light in the last six months. That's less than 20% of the time McCartney has been in the role.

      Griffen gets an opportunity to cut loose and go and play for a nobody team in a non-footy suburb and takes it because he can't cope with the focus on him as captain of the Western Bulldogs, particularly knowing a lot of his mates - who have been on the banana lounge big time over the last three years - are on notice and being managed out of the club.

      This should not have taken the coach down. Ryan Griffen should have been shown the door for the best possible price, and forgotten by our club for at least the next decade.

      If he happens to be playing for the Bulldogs next season, I'm going to find it hard to cheer for him.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • Go_Dogs
        Hall of Fame
        • Jan 2007
        • 10169

        Re: Coach resigns

        I'm appalled by our actions over the last 24 hours.

        I just don't know what to say.

        I hope there are more sackings and resignations, and at higher levels. We pack anything resembling strong leadership and have proven ourselves as an unprofessional, spineless Club. I was back in a relatively positive mood this morning, thinking we were finally addressing our cultural problems, but we have done another 180 and now I don't know what we're meant to stand for.

        Some supporters will be over the moon with this news, but we now have no coach, no senior players and a weak willed board, CEO and management.
        Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: Coach resigns

          If only Stringer had of taken that mark!

          I'm in Japan so have just read that in the space of 24 hours our captain and coach are kaput, gonesky! Don't know how to feel about it all, but at the moment there is a slight sense of ambivalence, with even a sadistic urge for things to get even worse, more players, assistant coaches, president!

          i will continue to passionately and support the club as I have for my whole life, always wondering why my grandad couldn't have just barracked for Hawthorn!

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          • Webby
            WOOF Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 1880

            Re: Coach resigns

            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
            Cooney and Minson must be traded too. Under no circumstance do I see a position for them.
            Yeah, I agree. Cut the festering sore out.

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              Re: Coach resigns

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Personally, I want him to stay, but I can understand how people don't.
              So he agrees to jump ship and head to GWS 6 months ago and you want him to stay?
              Staggering
              Hypothetically speaking if he doesn't like the next coach ( if he stays) it's okay to walk ?

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66858

                Re: Coach resigns

                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                So he agrees to jump ship and head to GWS 6 months ago and you want him to stay?
                Staggering
                Hypothetically speaking if he doesn't like the next coach ( if he stays) it's okay to walk ?
                Its great your a big fan of Maca, and think he has done everything right at the club, but when multiple players say they can't work with him, not just senior players, but lots of players - surely you can see there were issues.

                PG said in his presser, there were issues in the way he communicated to the players for the second half of the year. These players are not precious, you think they can't handle a rocket?? because as Mark Stevens tweeted, the senior players are use to a rocket from Rocket. What is missing with Macca is the way you deliver or communicate to players.
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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  Re: Coach resigns

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Its great your a big fan of Maca, and think he has done everything right at the club, but when multiple players say they can't work with him, not just senior players, but lots of players - surely you can see there were issues.

                  PG said in his presser, there were issues in the way he communicated to the players for the second half of the year. These players are not precious, you think they can't handle a rocket?? because as Mark Stevens tweeted, the senior players are use to a rocket from Rocket. What is missing with Macca is the way you deliver or communicate to players.
                  So if he couldn't communicate to the players, how on earth did our young players have such great years?
                  The older players have to show some accountability for underperformance, and not just blame the coach and bang on about his lack of communication . Our senior blokes have been sitting on a Caribbean beach sipping cocktails the last few years, and have taken exception at being questioned for the non contribution for the season.
                  How do you explain Griffen's carry on ? Everything's okay then returns and asks to be traded.
                  Mate I get it that you're a players man foremost, but just occasionally can you see that just maybe the players have to hold some accountability to what went on .

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Coach resigns

                    Devastated.

                    On holidays for the past week and it's been a steady progression of increasingly bad news each time I checked the phone for a news update. First fringe players, then good players, then marquee players wanting to leave the club ...now the coach is gone ...arrgh.

                    Staggered at how quickly things have turned around. Previously seemed the players were genuinely behind macca and he was attracting others (Stevens, crameri).

                    Don't think Macca is completely blameless. His communication and relationship with the senior players obviously wasn't what it should have been probably as a result of workload and the pressure he was putting on himself to drive the club forward. Sounds like he needed more support.

                    Still I really liked him, thought he was moving the club in the right direction and am really disappointed that he's gone.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66858

                      Re: Coach resigns

                      Originally posted by Remi Moses
                      So if he couldn't communicate to the players, how on earth did our young players have such great years?
                      The older players have to show some accountability for underperformance, and not just blame the coach and bang on about his lack of communication . Our senior blokes have been sitting on a Caribbean beach sipping cocktails the last few years, and have taken exception at being questioned for the non contribution for the season.
                      How do you explain Griffen's carry on ? Everything's okay then returns and asks to be traded.
                      Mate I get it that you're a players man foremost, but just occasionally can you see that just maybe the players have to hold some accountability to what went on .
                      I am not a players man, I am a club man. The coach can't coach and I am glad he is out.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • BulldogBelle
                        WOOF Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 5284

                        Re: Coach resigns

                        Based on all that's transpired, why didn't the committee sack him after the review? We talk about accountability and performance, but to me it's the committee that is under performing. Backflips and spin covering their lack of control over what's going on in their own club. If BMAC didn't resign, would they have sacked him? They have taken the easy path each time. We'll end up getting GWS 's second round pick and nothing else at this rate.

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                        • chef
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14634

                          Re: Coach resigns

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I am not a players man, I am a club man. The coach can't coach and I am glad he is out.
                          And leaders who cannot lead.
                          The curse is dead.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66858

                            Re: Coach resigns

                            Originally posted by chef
                            And leaders who cannot lead.
                            Time for young leaders to come through. Roughead for captain
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14634

                              Re: Coach resigns

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Time for young leaders to come through. Roughead for captain
                              Yep and for the old to go.
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • BulldogBelle
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 5284

                                Re: Coach resigns

                                Originally posted by chef
                                And leaders who cannot lead.
                                Cannot help but agree. The coach isn't the only one that should be cleaning out his office today. Port Adelaide setting the standard ...look at them now!

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