Coach resigns

[bulldogtragic]

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"We even invented (mistakes, to lose)"
"We haven't played good footy, or trained all that well (for the last 5 or 6 weeks)" - The time of the Macrae stuff, or something bigger?
"They'll be a lot of emotional reactions... to what we dished up (this game)"

Gia doing his hair a few times, while not really paying too much to answers.

I'm really intrigued by the training comment. The players didn't train well for 5-6 weeks. How does that happen (or what caused it) and Moreso how does the reasoning for that seemingly go unnoticed by the bigger powers?

[Bornadog]

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"We even invented (mistakes, to lose)"
"We haven't played good footy, or trained all that well (for the last 5 or 6 weeks)" - The time of the Macrae stuff, or something bigger?
"They'll be a lot of emotional reactions... to what we dished up (this game)"

Gia doing his hair a few times, while not really paying too much to answers.

I'm really intrigued by the training comment. The players didn't train well for 5-6 weeks. How does that happen (or what caused it) and Moreso how does the reasoning for that seemingly go unnoticed by the bigger powers?

Obviously lots of problems between Coach and players if they are not training well.

[bulldogtragic]

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Obviously lots of problems between Coach and players if they are not training well.

If you're not going to train for the coach, you're not going to play for the coach. How did Garlick and others not see it, or hear it?

To the many others that all watch the coach pressers too, how did we miss a big red flag like that? And why did it need saying? Why does the media need to be told about it? Surely training and Enthusism in the playing group is a matter for internal review.

[soupman]

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Two posts I found rather interesting.

Cameron Ling tweeted this

After 3 seasons, Macca 20wins 46 losses v Clarko 28wins 40 losses. Dogs baulk v Hawks didn't. Average club v great club. Success takes time.

I have to agree with Cameron on this one.

Ling would feel a little stupid with this comment now, although it does seem on par with the accuracy and cheerleading of most of his work.

Some of the comments are well known and the response from some of the players goes to show Macca was on the money.

- Lack of preparedness to play team football
- Unwillingness to run two ways
- Unsupportive of younger team mates
- Expect everyone to pour adulation on them for what they believe they've achieved and don't give anything back.
- Elitist and all round quite selfish

Pretty much all the things the Bulldogs culture has been accused of for 30 years.

Interestingly less than two years after that we:
-Are the absolute ideal "team football" side, relying on everyone contributing and maximum effort to win games.
-We work incredibly hard both offensively and defensively
-The group is as tight knit a side as I've ever seen and young players are thriving
-Don't seem particularly arrogant and seem to be saying all the right things about wanting to stick together
-Often discussed how everyone at the club is equal and it's all about the team

*Not trying to shame either poster quoted, my views were much the same at the time. Just makes interesting reading.

[jeemak]

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It's a moot point, but I wonder what Bevo might have been able to do with the same players, i.e., whether he'd have been able to turn the attitude around.

Actually, I wonder if he'd have even put his hand up for the job if they were still there.

[The Pie Man]

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The unsupportive of young team mates etc thing sounds like it was aimed at an Adam Cooney type. If I'm right, then my guess is that's the kind of feedback that was overdue. I get his knee was shot, but after focusing on him at a few games (just not running once the ball was lost or kicked away from where he was) and hearing rumors of divisive behavior, I wasn't unhappy he left.

The senior members still around don't seem like those personalities. We hung onto the right guys, and a few of them got a flag out of it.



I wonder though if that was the first time it was brought up? To say were hadn't been training well for over a month at a press conference is an indictment on the coaching staff as much as the playing group. I watched the Open Mike with Dal Santo this week with interest, and his comments on Ross Lyon were quite interesting - in that he could understand why players on the fringe of a Ross Lyon team would hate him as he'd use them as witches hats at training and pretty much ignore them while having beers/socialising with the senior group when time permitted. Couldn't imagine Bevo doing anything remotely similar

[The Doctor]

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Why do this to yourselves?

[bulldogtragic]

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Why do this to yourselves?

After the Premiership this doesn't sting for me anymore. Having an unemotional conversation about the issues fom that presser I find interesting in the context of what's since happened, if not even a little cathartic.

[comrade]

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For what it is worth, we have to make it seem like we're trying to hold onto Griffen if we want to get the most out of GWS.

And there has been a sense for awhile that BMac is not as good at "managing men" as advertised. I mean, it should never have come to this, and it is the coach's role to deal with feuds and similar tensions between players.

Basically it is shambolic at the moment, but the club needs us to stick with them, so I'll put back on my Bulldogs glasses and try and look at this with some optimism.

Hopefully Dalrymple and Monty (presumably they are in charge at the moment) work some magic, ransack GWS for Griffen, I get a new avatar, a new coach comes in who melds the group together while making sure that the youngsters are empowered, and we become a flag-winning dynasty.

(I really don't want to think about the possibility of Griffen staying.)

The oracle!

[The Pie Man]

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Why do this to yourselves?

Am following the WB 1997 twitter feed - they 'live' tweeted the Hawthorn Chris Grant game the other week. Wondered that very thing to myself at the time.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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After the Premiership this doesn't sting for me anymore. Having an unemotional conversation about the issues fom that presser I find interesting in the context of what's since happened, if not even a little cathartic.

The flag has wiped it all out for me. Even 97.

[The Pie Man]

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Just read through this thread - the Sunday after the prelim last year I reflected on how ridiculous it was we'd made a GF from this position.

Also found the comment from a Geelong fan early in this thread about 'the list can play' very interesting.

On previous blown opportunities - they still hurt....just not as much.

[Remi Moses]

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Am following the WB 1997 twitter feed - they 'live' tweeted the Hawthorn Chris Grant game the other week. Wondered that very thing to myself at the time.

Also following , I love it . We we're genuinely hated then, and it's getting a bit that way now .
See on Bartlett's show that try hard footy shock jock Greg Denham is at it again ! Whipping up a frenzy on the 4 goals Sydney were robbed in the GF.

[Twodogs]

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Also following , I love it . We we're genuinely hated then, and it's getting a bit that way now .
See on Bartlett's show that try hard footy shock jock Greg Denham is at it again ! Whipping up a frenzy on the 4 goals Sydney were robbed in the GF.

Did I miss the one they had overturned? Denham is a blowhard, another footy journo told me that he only goes to the footy 3 or 4 times a year.

[jeemak]

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Also following , I love it . We we're genuinely hated then, and it's getting a bit that way now .
See on Bartlett's show that try hard footy shock jock Greg Denham is at it again ! Whipping up a frenzy on the 4 goals Sydney were robbed in the GF.

I love this line of argument. It completely ignores the ball going back to the middle after the first goal and changing the future.