Recruiting post Bmac.

[GVGjr]

Re: Recruiting post Bmac.

Don't forget under BMac we started looking at some fringe players hoping they would come good like, Fuller, Dickson, Darley, Goodes, Lower, Stevens, Campbell.

Jury still out on some of these, so its not perfect under BMAC.

I don't think anyone has said recruiting has been perfect under the Brendan McCartney but I think most here would say we have had a lot of commonsense and science applied during his time which was clearly lacking prior to his appointment.

Lower and Goodes didn't hurt us in the slightest as we had so many youngsters coming through it was seen as a positive to have quality people around them. Once Wallis and Smith proved that they could handle the midfield tagging duties then Lower was let go after one just season. Goodes started off in a sensational manner before his form tapered off. He was gone after just two seasons.

Darley and Stevens cost us next to nothing and both have played their best football for us. I'm genuinely confident that Stevens can be a better player than he already has been in the coming years. Campbell and Dickson have been positive and solid selections rather than trying to pluck something from nothing.

When compared to the short term appointments of the likes of Akermanis, Welsh and Hall (albeit we were trying to top up a finals campaign) and the mystifying promotions of the likes of Mulligan and Hooper to the senior list, I think the approach we had taken during McCartney's time was planned, prescribed and provided our youngsters a solid pathway to becoming better footballers.

BMAC also had the opportunity to look at 1st rounders in the top 5 or 6 due to where we finished, which was not a luxury from 2006 to 2010. Of course Howard was the biggest mistake in that period.

Howard was certainly not the only, or even the biggest, mistake during this period.

[chef]

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Don't forget under BMac we started looking at some fringe players hoping they would come good like, Fuller, Dickson, Darley, Goodes, Lower, Stevens, Campbell.

Jury still out on some of these, so its not perfect under BMAC.

BMAC also had the opportunity to look at 1st rounders in the top 5 or 6 due to where we finished, which was not a luxury from 2006 to 2010. Of course Howard was the biggest mistake in that period.

It's never going to be an exact science, but the drafting under Bmac, Jmac and Dalrymple has been very good and I think better than the last regime.

[mighty_west]

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I don't think anyone has said recruiting has been perfect under the Brendan McCartney but I think most here would say we have had a lot of commonsense and science applied during his time which was clearly lacking prior to his appointment.

Lower and Goodes didn't hurt us in the slightest as we had so many youngsters coming through it was seen as a positive to have quality people around them. Once Wallis and Smith proved that they could handle the midfield tagging duties then Lower was let go after one just season. Goodes started off in a sensational manner before his form tapered off. He was gone after just two seasons.

Darley and Stevens cost us next to nothing and both have played their best football for us. I'm genuinely confident that Stevens can be a better player than he already has been in the coming years. Campbell and Dickson have been positive and solid selections rather than trying to pluck something from nothing.

When compared to the short term appointments of the likes of Akermanis, Welsh and Hall (albeit we were trying to top up a finals campaign) and the mystifying promotions of the likes of Mulligan and Hooper to the senior list, I think the approach we had taken during McCartney's time was planned, prescribed and provided our youngsters a solid pathway to becoming better footballers.



Howard was certainly not the only, or even the biggest, mistake during this period.

I don't see mature aged players as high risk as long as they're taken as rookies, Goodes and Lower, Moles before them as failures, they are low risk selections.

As you said Darley and Stevens cost us bugger all, Biggs the same this year, again low risk selections although I do see futures with Darley (great kick), Stevens (hard nut) and Campbell who most believe is next in line to take over ruck duties and pretty much ready to go.

The Fuller selection on the other hand and hopefully Dalrymple doesn't now go back to unrated non proven juniors with such high picks.

[Twodogs]

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Di people laugh at the no dickheads policy. It'd be pretty commonplace now I'd have thought. We were meant to have one under Eade anyway

Rocket's rule was no Tasmanian dickheads.

[azabob]

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Rocket's rule was no Tasmanian dickheads.

Ah, how did Sherman get through?

[soupman]

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I think the biggest change underneath BMac and possibly Dalrymple was that for our later picks we preferred to pick footballers that slid due to athletic deficiencies than athletes that slid because of football deficiencies.

I think the club backed itself in that it would be able to get more out of someone with a good attitude and that can already play the game but needed to improve physically. The only player that was more athlete than footballer that we recruited under BMac was Jong, and that was on the rookie list.

I hope we continue on this path.

[Twodogs]

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Ah, how did Sherman get through?

Good question. There are so many reasons to ask that question too.

[Bornadog]

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Ah, how did Sherman get through?

He turned into a dickhead

[BulldogBelle]

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Ah, how did Sherman get through?

And what a waste of a draft pick.
l am sure he had a reputation as a dickhead before we picked him up.

[Greystache]

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He turned into a dickhead

He was a renowned dickhead well before we recruited him.

It was a horrible recruiting period where virtually every selection made no sense. He was just one on the list.

[Bulldog Revolution]

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He was a renowned dickhead well before we recruited him.

It was a horrible recruiting period where virtually every selection made no sense. He was just one on the list.

The Mulligan/Hooper/Sherman years will not look good on Fantasias resume

[Bornadog]

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The Mulligan/Hooper/Sherman years will not look good on Fantasias resume

Sherman was the biggest waste considering the pick we used.

[GVGjr]

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The Mulligan/Hooper/Sherman years will not look good on Fantasias resume

I'm not sure Sherman had Fantasia's mark on him but whatever way you look at it, I can't believe the coach didn't have the say of who got promoted off a rookie list and the length of the contracts given.
Coaches need to be involved

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I'm not sure Sherman had Fantasia's mark on him but whatever way you look at it, I can't believe the coach didn't have the say of who got promoted off a rookie list and the length of the contracts given.
Coaches need to be involved

At least Hooper could play at lower levels - he was good at U18 level and from memory OK at VFL. It was certainly not worthy of a promotion, but the Mulligan blunder was absolutely atrocious and one of the worst pieces of list management I've ever seen.

[azabob]

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As a result that is why Fantasia is no longer at club land.