Robert Murphy - the enigma

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  • Scorlibo
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2007
    • 3097

    #61
    Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

    Originally posted by Dry Rot
    In a perfect world, we'd probably play both Murphy and Griffen in the backline.

    But both are needed elsewhere for now.

    An interesting hypothetical: if we had a good tall CHF, where would you play Murphy?
    I would still play him across half forward, and I don't agree with you on Murphy and Griffen's ideal positions, for mine Griffen has always been a midfielder and Murphy's evasive skills are best utilised around the congested forward fifty.
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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14748

      #62
      Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

      Originally posted by Scorlibo
      I would still play him across half forward, and I don't agree with you on Murphy and Griffen's ideal positions, for mine Griffen has always been a midfielder and Murphy's evasive skills are best utilised around the congested forward fifty.
      I agree, they are already being played in their best positions
      The curse is dead.

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      • Curly5
        Rookie List
        • Jul 2008
        • 403

        #63
        Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

        Fingers crossed no injuries - like the rest of the team I think Murph is working up towards the end of the season and finals.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45577

          #64
          Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

          Originally posted by EJ Smith
          I would like to see him give up travelling by train and drive to training to get there earlier and use the extra time learning how to mark the ball on his chest. How many has he spilled this year?

          He has a problem with his technique that needs fixing
          Technique or concentration?
          I think he takes too many good marks for it to be a problem with his technique.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15547

            #65
            Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Technique or concentration?
            I think he takes too many good marks for it to be a problem with his technique.
            I think it's concentration.

            When he is about to complete a chest mark he seems to take it a little easy and doesn't watch the ball onto his chest.

            It really needs to fix this little problem as it has been/ will be costly.

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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6985

              #66
              Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

              Originally posted by Mantis
              I think it's concentration.

              When he is about to complete a chest mark he seems to take it a little easy and doesn't watch the ball onto his chest.

              It really needs to fix this little problem as it has been/ will be costly.
              He is a creative player and seems to be the type that can be thinking about the next step when approaching something rudimentary.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67705

                #67
                Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

                Originally posted by Mantis
                I think it's concentration.

                When he is about to complete a chest mark he seems to take it a little easy and doesn't watch the ball onto his chest.

                It really needs to fix this little problem as it has been/ will be costly.
                I think he is already trying to work out what he will do with the ball and maybe he is one step ahead of himself, but doesn't take the ball with him. You will notice that Murph is always playing on, keeping the ball moving.
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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45577

                  #68
                  Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

                  Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                  He is a creative player and seems to be the type that can be thinking about the next step when approaching something rudimentary.
                  That's all very well when you are in form and have the right touch but at times he looks very amateurish spilling marks that he should otherwise gobble up.
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                  • stefoid
                    Senior Player
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1846

                    #69
                    Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

                    Hes a good flanker. Would have been a great wing in the 80s/early 90s when players had a position and a direct opponent.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 15116

                      #70
                      Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      That's all very well when you are in form and have the right touch but at times he looks very amateurish spilling marks that he should otherwise gobble up.
                      We always have the option of putting Bobby on the HBF if he's out of touch, expecially with Shaggy no certainty to play. He does have the ability to set up play and his speed of ball movement on the turnover will be a bonus. Only downside is the HF line problem - it may mean reducing Higgo's midfield time and playing him forward a bit more.
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                      • Cyberdoggie
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2861

                        #71
                        Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

                        He seems to be jumping at the ball too often.
                        For simple marks that he could walk up to and take it out in front he is instead jumping at them to take on the bread basket.

                        Sure he should hold these and normally does, but everytime he jumps at the ball, the opposition defender can make contact and put him to ground, robbing him of his ability to quickly play on and get around his man. Maybe he's doing this because he doesn't want contact on his dodgy knee?

                        It could be a few things that have triggered it but in end he's a good player that is out of form and making silly mental mistakes.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #72
                          Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

                          Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                          He seems to be jumping at the ball too often.
                          For simple marks that he could walk up to and take it out in front he is instead jumping at them to take on the bread basket.

                          Sure he should hold these and normally does, but everytime he jumps at the ball, the opposition defender can make contact and put him to ground, robbing him of his ability to quickly play on and get around his man. Maybe he's doing this because he doesn't want contact on his dodgy knee?

                          It could be a few things that have triggered it but in end he's a good player that is out of form and making silly mental mistakes.
                          He is trying to jack-knife himself into the ball seemingly to protect it but it's going straight through his arms - this is a technique issue.

                          If he goes back to simply marking the ball on his chest he will be alright. He can defend the ball by positioning his body between the ball and his opponent - the way he did before.

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                          • Sockeye Salmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6365

                            #73
                            Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

                            Originally posted by EJ Smith
                            He is trying to jack-knife himself into the ball seemingly to protect it but it's going straight through his arms - this is a technique issue.

                            If he goes back to simply marking the ball on his chest he will be alright. He can defend the ball by positioning his body between the ball and his opponent - the way he did before.
                            We tell our 6 yo's in Auskick, "no chicken wings! Elbows in, don't let the ball slip through".

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #74
                              Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

                              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                              We tell our 6 yo's in Auskick, "no chicken wings! Elbows in, don't let the ball slip through".
                              It's not quite Rocket Science is it?

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #75
                                Re: Robert Murphy - the enigma

                                Originally posted by EJ Smith
                                He is trying to jack-knife himself into the ball seemingly to protect it but it's going straight through his arms - this is a technique issue.

                                If he goes back to simply marking the ball on his chest he will be alright. He can defend the ball by positioning his body between the ball and his opponent - the way he did before.
                                You always can tell which blokes come from a cricketing background -- they see everything as a 'technique' issue.

                                I'm in agreement with you here. All players let bad habits creep into their game over time, especially when they are 'in form' and can compensate for flaws with feel, but once their touch goes out a little bit these bad habits come back to haunt them.

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