Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

[Mofra]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Boyd, Hamling, Z Cordy and promoting Redpath was a pretty good effort at improving our KP stocks in one off season. If Campbell, Talia & Roberts come on this year we will look a lot better

In the off season we lost Austin (despite what some say, he was a mature body & serviceable) and Williams who was arguably our best tall in those brief fleeting moments he was uninjured.

Our tall stocks look young and speculative although Redpath and Boyd are showing good signs. Our defensive stocks are terrible and if Roberts and somehow get his shoulders together, Roughy can recover from a poor 2014, Talia learns how to defend one on one and Hamling does a pre-season under Hird with all associated "supplements" then yes, we'd look better in the back half.

Right now speculative kids does not guarantee success. Melbourne has been banking talented kids with high draft picks for the better part of a decade and it's got them nowhere.

[Mofra]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Clearly Darymple thinks the talls at our picks aren't going to be much chop.
Picking up a free agent at 28 or 29 would be pointless, and we just need to keep playing Talia, Roberts, Hamling and the like.
Time will tell of course whether we stuffed up

You mean having a key defender who can defend for 2-3 years, the time it takes a young key defender to develop, is pointless?
I disagree - if a kid isn't ready for AFL football throwing him to the wolves won't help, nor will telling a bunch of senior players "we're going to be deliberately crap for a number of years and won't fix a glaring weakness" even with a cheap mature ager for a couple of years will go down well either.

I think we should have targeted someone who can fill in for a couple of years to allow our young talls to develop.
Do you think Tom Boyd's development will suffer because we have an aggressive 100kg 24 year old monster in the forwardline with him?

[Mofra]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Dalrymple said on draft night he thinks Cordy will in time be able to play as a key defender, I'm hoping he is right

So maybe he makes it and if so, maybe he makes it as a key defender?

Banking on two 'maybes' for 4-5 years time on a skinny Cordy (who has already lost half a year of development with a shoulder reco) is not what I'd call great list management.

[Bornadog]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

You mean having a key defender who can defend for 2-3 years, the time it takes a young key defender to develop, is pointless?
I disagree - if a kid isn't ready for AFL football throwing him to the wolves won't help, nor will telling a bunch of senior players "we're going to be deliberately crap for a number of years and won't fix a glaring weakness" even with a cheap mature ager for a couple of years will go down well either.

I think we should have targeted someone who can fill in for a couple of years to allow our young talls to develop.
Do you think Tom Boyd's development will suffer because we have an aggressive 100kg 24 year old monster in the forwardline with him?

I was very disappointed with our selection of rookies this year. We should have picked up at least one young or mature age KPP and one developing ruckman.

[Mofra]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

I was very disappointed with our selection of rookies this year. We should have picked up at least one young or mature age KPP and one developing ruckman.

I'm surprised we didn't - perhaps the club thinks Kelly can play tall but he looks a fair way off from what I've seen.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

You mean having a key defender who can defend for 2-3 years, the time it takes a young key defender to develop, is pointless?
I disagree - if a kid isn't ready for AFL football throwing him to the wolves won't help, nor will telling a bunch of senior players "we're going to be deliberately crap for a number of years and won't fix a glaring weakness" even with a cheap mature ager for a couple of years will go down well either.

I think we should have targeted someone who can fill in for a couple of years to allow our young talls to develop.
Do you think Tom Boyd's development will suffer because we have an aggressive 100kg 24 year old monster in the forwardline with him?

We did go hard at Tom Longeran. Who fits this criteria perfectly. I get the feeling we had him signed until all the crap went down.

[Bornadog]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

We did go hard at Tom Longeran. Who fits this criteria perfectly. I get the feeling we had him signed until all the crap went down.

Thank god we didn't get him.

[lemmon]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Thank god we didn't get him.

You've advocated grabbing a mature age rookie key position player but not a mature age player we know could step in and do the job to a high standard, I don't see the difference. Granted he would have taken a fair amount of cap space to get over but who else is the money going to anyway?

[Bornadog]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

You've advocated grabbing a mature age rookie key position player but not a mature age player we know could step in and do the job to a high standard, I don't see the difference. Granted he would have taken a fair amount of cap space to get over but who else is the money going to anyway?

The amount of money we were throwing at a soon to be 31 year old was just ridiculous in my opinion. Plus, personally, I don't rate him at all. I would rather a 25 year old or younger player that we can get a few years out of.

[Mofra]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

We did go hard at Tom Longeran. Who fits this criteria perfectly. I get the feeling we had him signed until all the crap went down.

I'd be surprised if we weren't talking to a number of talls at other clubs - it seems genuine KPDs are now in demand if Frawley's contract is anything to go by.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

The amount of money we were throwing at a soon to be 31 year old was just ridiculous in my opinion. Plus, personally, I don't rate him at all. I would rather a 25 year old or younger player that we can get a few years out of.

Fair enough if you don't think he was worth the alleged money - I am of a similar view - but how can you not rate him? Lonergan has been Geelong's best defender for years.

[Bornadog]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Fair enough if you don't think he was worth the alleged money - I am of a similar view - but how can you not rate him? Lonergan has been Geelong's best defender for years.

I am basing it on his performance in 2014. I think he is on the decline. I could be wrong, but just felt he was beaten several times last year.

[lemmon]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

The amount of money we were throwing at a soon to be 31 year old was just ridiculous in my opinion. Plus, personally, I don't rate him at all. I would rather a 25 year old or younger player that we can get a few years out of.

Anyone know how much of the cap we're paying this year?

[Greystache]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

I am basing it on his performance in 2014. I think he is on the decline. I could be wrong, but just felt he was beaten several times last year.

He made the All Australian squad in 2014.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

So maybe he makes it and if so, maybe he makes it as a key defender?

Banking on two 'maybes' for 4-5 years time on a skinny Cordy (who has already lost half a year of development with a shoulder reco) is not what I'd call great list management.

Doesn't that remain to be seen? You target a cheap option and it doesn't work you're back to square one