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Big guys do take longer to develop and Skipper really has seemed to respond to Eade. In some ways its a real shame he made such slow progress the first 3 years he was on the list. The past two off seasons appear to have been the best of his career. I thought during a very difficult 2007 where he did not get to play seniors until late in the year, he made every post a winner in his appearances, and I really respected the contribution he made.He's 24 so he could have 7 or more years in him. If he at least becomes dangerous and does better that Minson and Wight then we would likely keep him. 25-30 goals at least makes him useful for if say Jarryd Grant plays a match. If you don't think he can do that then fine but don't insult us.
Even though he hasn't run yet post the foot injury talks are that he is in very good nick.
I dont expect him to become something he is not, but if he can get his aerobic fitness up and improve his second efforts we know that he is already a fine kick, a handy backup ruckman with the ability to palm the ball deftly.
Its up to him, but he is a guy with a few positivesComment
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[QUOTE=hujsh;27579]Who says you can't start a thread?
How can you chose to compare Skipper with Nick Riewoldt, Alan Didak, Shaun Burgoyne, Daniel Kerr,Adam Mcphee, and Graham Johncock. Comparing someone we want service out of with some of the classiest players in the AFL is not fair to him.
You're right. comparing Wayde Skipper to good players is unfair. I apologise
							
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Guy Richards the bench mark? I know what you mean, but Wayde wouldnt of last 7yrs at West Coast. Maybe thats why its been 54 yrsComment
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OK. The point I'm trying to make is that players drafted in 2000 have either made it by now or they are delisted. All players I named are from the same draft. If Skip was drafted by any other team I doubt he would still be on their senior list.
Let's compare him to the next rung down of the cream from the 2000 draft. I'm certainly not over impressed with the following............
Kayne Pettifer 103 games 123 goals
Simon Wiggins 89 games 20 goals
Drew Petrie 131 games 111 goals
Luke Ablett 98 games 28 goals
Chris Hyde 82 games 31 goals
These are hardly the cream but they all are light years ahead of skipper as far as tangible contributions go. I mean even Simon Wiggins has played more than twice the number of games. How many dogs supporters would be happy if we traded for Simon Wiggins? It would take a miraculous transformation after years of mediocrity for Skipper to contribute anything to our cause, and history says miraculous transformations are very very rare. As a passionate member I would be over the moon if Skipper turned it on, and I'm not one to yell abuse from the stands, but surely we're allowed open analysis on woof?
P.S. I've received messages about starting new posts but for some reason I just can't get them to open.
I'm on a mac if that explains anythingComment
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How long was Josh Wooden maintained on the list?
Like it or not, we had injury problems with Minson and Street and Darcy was well down on form. Skipper wasn't a bad option as a support ruckman.
Now that we heave a healthy Minson and Street plus Hudson, Skipper needs to make it on his ability to play a key position. It will be his last season at the club if he doesn't.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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Josh Wooden wasnt a bad player. Everytime they bought him in he did a good job. Hard to get a regular gig in the WCE midfield (Kemp, matera, cousins,judd,kerr etc). He wouldnt be far behind Matthew Boyd as a player.How long was Josh Wooden maintained on the list?
Like it or not, we had injury problems with Minson and Street and Darcy was well down on form. Skipper wasn't a bad option as a support ruckman.
Now that we heave a healthy Minson and Street plus Hudson, Skipper needs to make it on his ability to play a key position. It will be his last season at the club if he doesn't.
The thing about Skipper is when he gets a game he cant be relied on. Even the game when he kicked 5 against Geelong, he only took one decent mark. The other goals were bumbling or 'lucky' goals. Dont get me wrong, i would love to see Wayde play consistent AFL, but i think its beyond himComment
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You are comparing Josh Wooden with Matthew Boyd?Josh Wooden wasnt a bad player. Everytime they bought him in he did a good job. Hard to get a regular gig in the WCE midfield (Kemp, matera, cousins,judd,kerr etc). He wouldnt be far behind Matthew Boyd as a player.
The thing about Skipper is when he gets a game he cant be relied on. Even the game when he kicked 5 against Geelong, he only took one decent mark. The other goals were bumbling or 'lucky' goals. Dont get me wrong, i would love to see Wayde play consistent AFL, but i think its beyond him
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Boyd is no star. Good honest player. Wooden wasnt a hack, he was an honest tryer. I said he wasnt far behind Boyd. I think thats a fair assessment
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Boyd a bit better than a good honest player but Wooden was a fair few steps behind him.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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I would have thought Boyd was a better player than Wooden, although I was surprised to see Wooden played 96 games for them
West Coast persisted with Wooden, Callum Chambers and Jaxon Crabb for many years.Comment
 
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