Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

[Bulldog4life]

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I had previously said I thought he manager is Scott Lucas but it isn't. It is Nick Gieschen whoever that is.

[bulldogtragic]

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I had previously said I thought he manager is Scott Lucas but it isn't. It is Nick Gieschen whoever that is.

Jeff's son. Doesn't sound very bright.

[Axe Man]

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Western Bulldog Lin Jong weighs two-year offer to stay at Whitten Oval

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge has revealed Lin Jong has a two-year contract offer on the table to stay at the club, and did so at the time he toured Collingwood's facilities.

News that Jong met with Magpies coach Nathan Buckley at the club's headquarters has caused heated debate in AFL circles.

With both Collingwood and the Bulldogs seeming to go back and forth on the issue of how appropriate it is to meet a player from another team on club premises, Beveridge is now hopeful the midfield utility will sign the contract extension.

"Jongy's probably not far away from saying to us, 'I want to sign on the dotted line' or, 'nah, I want to wait'," Beveridge said.

"It's a two-year offer, it's not a one-year offer.

"We love Jongy. We think he makes valuable contributions and he's only going to improve so he's a really important player for us. We don't want to lose him."

The 23-year-old has played just 31 games for the Bulldogs, averaging 15 disposals and two clearances.

The fact Jong had an offer on the table from the Bulldogs at the time he visited Collingwood adds intrigue to the situation and leaves the Bulldog with a difficult decision to make in the coming weeks.

"The only thing that surprised me is where the meeting was," Beveridge said on Tuesday.

"I think Collingwood [should] go for their life and Jongy's well within his rights to have a meeting but as I said, you've just got to keep it secret."

While Beveridge said he's not angry the meeting took place, he was clearly unhappy the matter became public.

"There's no double standards here, we'd do it as well but we just wouldn't do it here.

"We wouldn't do it at the Whitten Oval because you've got to keep it behind closed doors and make sure it doesn't get out, that's common practice."

Meantime, as the Bulldogs prepare for Saturday night's clash with Gold Coast in Cairns, Beveridge has confirmed midfield bull Tom Liberatore won't make the trip north after injuring his ribs.

Beveridge said Liberatore has a small crack and significant bruising and the medical staff were concerned the altitude and cabin pressure of a plane trip may have a negative impact.

He said Liberatore is likely to only miss one week and may well have played this week if the Bulldogs were playing a home game.

The other Tom – Boyd – is once again a chance to come back into the senior side, but Beveridge said it will be more than him that makes the decision.

The big money forward was suspended indefinitely after an off-field altercation with teammate Zayne Cordy, but is moving closer to a senior return by the week.

"He probably didn't play as well as he did the week before at VFL level, so if we're picking it on form we've got to consider that at match committee.

"I think it's time ... we're almost ready to put it behind us. Both him and Zayne have been pretty contrite and have paid their penance but it's got to be up to everyone that that's enough, because I'm not the one playing with Tommy.

"I'm just looking forward to getting him back in – we all are – and seeing his contribution, because we are ready to get one of the bigs in again."

[bulldogtragic]

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So it's about dollars presumably. I wonder how much more he wants? $50-75,000 a season more maybe?

[EasternWest]

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So it's about dollars presumably. I wonder how much more he wants? $50-75,000 a season more maybe?

What if it was the same money or thereabouts but an extra year?

I like Jong. He's a good story and I think he's got more in him, but if he made the decision to leave for a longer/better contract, I wouldn't hold it against him.

[bulldogtragic]

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What if it was the same money or thereabouts but an extra year?

I like Jong. He's a good story and I think he's got more in him, but if he made the decision to leave for a longer/better contract, I wouldn't hold it against him.

If someone is happy to give him three years, good luck to them both. 2 years and ok salary is where he is at. It's his next contract that's his pay day if he continues to develop.

[EasternWest]

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If someone is happy to give him three years, good luck to them both. 2 years and ok salary is where he is at. It's his next contract that's his pay day if he continues to develop.

I agree, but we're talking a speculative industry where "continuing to develop" isn't a sure thing.

Two years is probably about right at our club, and I hope he stays.

[hujsh]

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If someone is happy to give him three years, good luck to them both. 2 years and ok salary is where he is at. It's his next contract that's his pay day if he continues to develop.

I agree, but we're talking a speculative industry where "continuing to develop" isn't a sure thing.

Two years is probably about right at our club, and I hope he stays.

The last two players to leave the club for 3 year deals haven't gone on to be that great.

[EasternWest]

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The last two players to leave the club for 3 year deals haven't gone on to be that great.

Lin Jong's already five times the player either of those are and don't even remotely compare.

[jeemak]

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If someone is happy to give him three years, good luck to them both. 2 years and ok salary is where he is at. It's his next contract that's his pay day if he continues to develop.

I agree with this. It's line ball whether he'll improve on his current output and I don't want to lock him in for any more than two given he's marginally speculative as a future contributor to a side that should be challenging.

[hujsh]

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Lin Jong's already five times the player either of those are and don't even remotely compare.

Are you sure your perception of Jones isn't clouded by more recent performances?

I dare say most of us having to choose between losing Jones in 2014 or Jong now (without knowledge of what Jones has become) would have kept Jones and lost Jong.

[comrade]

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Just thinking about Tutt and Jones on 3 year deals makes me laugh.

[Twodogs]

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Just thinking about Tutt and Jones on 3 year deals makes me laugh.

Them playing AFL footy again next year fills me with joy. Even just the fact they get to clog Carlton's list for another year is great.

[comrade]

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Them playing AFL footy again next year fills me with joy. Even just the fact they get to clog Carlton's list for another year is great.

As much as we enjoy their deals, they would enjoy them 1000x more.

Both get one more year of earning $250,000+, having their own personal trainers and doctors completely paid for, plenty of XBox time despite being marginally better than the amateur blokes scrapping it out with them at the Northen Blues.

And then it will all end.

[EasternWest]

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Are you sure your perception of Jones isn't clouded by more recent performances?

I dare say most of us having to choose between losing Jones in 2014 or Jong now (without knowledge of what Jones has become) would have kept Jones and lost Jong.

Fair question.

I'd say I'm judging them on where they're at in their careers when it seems like they might leave.

Jones was stagnant and his only redeeming virtue was his VFL Grand final performance (where Jong was arguably bog). I'll admit I would have preferred to have kept him, but I didn't care that he left.

Jong is a hard at it, big bodied mid with good hands and a terrific attitude. And like Vincent Vega said; personality goes a long way.

Tutt doesn't count.

So yeah, reasonable question, but I stand by my comment.