Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

The Geelong coach said of Jake " We knew he was good, but not that good". Comparisons were being made with Ablett for a while there ( anyone remember that? ). We may look back in history and say 11 was too cheap.

Dale Morris said if Jake comes back they will welcome him with open arms. " He's one of us".
Nothing brings people together like sport and Bevo is the man to reconcile if Jake has to stay.

[Topdog]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

We might not be able to sell it as a win but we now have to make the choice if we truly believe we can have him back or if we take the best offer.

If we weren't serious we should have accepted 11 for 26&Stringer

[GVGjr]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

If we weren't serious we should have accepted 11 for 26&Stringer

And we would have been crucified if we did that as well.

[Topdog]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

And we would have been crucified if we did that as well.

That's because it would have been weak but this new deal is even worse. Again if we weren't serious about a high first rounder as the price we should have accepted early

[lemmon]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

I don't see why their 2018 first rounder isn't part of the conversation?

[GVGjr]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

I don't see why their 2018 first rounder isn't part of the conversation?

Only because of the stronger draft. That would be a very hard sell for them. They might do it though if we were to give something back. Low chance I would say.

[Ozza]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

Essendon's 1st round draft pick next year could be 14-18 - they would be in the mix for top 4 next season.

Is 14-18 next year better than 11 this year given that next years draft is predicted to be a lot better?

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

Hmmm, I think the whole 'if we don't get the right deal, he'll stay at the dogs' is a bluff. Hard to walk things back from the (poor) way in which we came out with putting him on the table.

I hope I'm proven wrong - but am fearful that Bevo's initial press on this will prove to have been a disaster.

Can see your point Ozza. This from Age today.

The Bulldogs will be forced to reassess their strategy in relation to their demands for Stringer with few in the industry thinking the contracted 23-year-old could return to the club after his coach Luke Beveridge made it clear post-season it was best for both parties if Stringer made a fresh start.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

AFL Trades 2017: How Essendon can still meet demands for Jake Stringer and Adam Saad

ONE down, two to go.

Essendon secured the first of three trade targets on Thursday morning, tying up a deal with Greater Western Sydney for forward Devon Smith.

However, complex negotiations for the remaining two players hoping to arrive at the Bombers during this year’s exchange period — Jake Stringer and Adam Saad — hang in the balance.

Essendon shipped its prized Pick 11 to GWS in exchange for Smith, also receiving Pick 24, while swapping later selections in next year’s bumper draft. It was the first domino to fall in 2017.

It was a dramatic opening move from Essendon. After all, both the Western Bulldogs and Gold Coast had also been eyeing off the club’s first selection in deals for Stringer and Saad respectively.

It left the Dons with Picks 24 and 29 to negotiate with when they next meet the Dogs and the Suns.

While the Suns might consider one of those for Saad, the Dogs are almost certain to demand more for Stringer — a 23-year-old premiership player and All-Australian capable of cracking the AFL’s elite.

There is yet ways for Essendon to satisfy for the Western Bulldogs’ demands for Stringer, most notably by offering future picks in order to finally resolve the situation. However, given how highly next year’s crop of junior talent is being rated by recruiters, doing so has its risks.

Involving a third club in negotiations is also a possibility. Despite no contact being made between the active parties yet, Richmond looms as an ideal candidate to get involved in the deal.

The Tigers have the luxury of holding Picks 15 and 17 in this year’s draft, but could earn more draft points by trading away one of those selections in a bundled deal for the two Bomber picks.

Essendon’s Picks 24 and 29 are collectively worth more draft points than Richmond’s Pick 15, which alone could be enough to satisfy the Western Bulldogs in a deal for Stringer.

The benefit for the Tigers? More draft points to match a bid for highly rated father-son prospect Patrick Naish. The benefit for the Dons and the Dogs? Pick 15 to include in a deal for Stringer.

However, even if that far-fetched hypothetical plays out, it still leaves Saad waiting in the wings.

Essendon’s next selection in the draft is Pick 47 — not enough to tempt the Gold Coast into a trade.

While either Pick 24 or 29 might do, offloading one of those selections would ultimately come down to the Bombers being forced to decide who they rate higher — Stringer or Saad.

Perhaps this is where a future selection comes into Essendon’s thinking. Could they offer a second-round pick in next year’s draft for the Suns speedster, should Picks 24 or 29 be sent elsewhere?

Gold Coast has not ruled out the possibility of Saad, contracted for 2018, being traded to another Victorian club, should Essendon not meet its demands for the defender.

Earlier this week, Gold Coast list boss Scott Clayton said of the 23-year-old: “We do hear his preference, but it’s about the city.”

Carlton has been strongly linked to Saad and is monitoring the situation closely.

Much like the Bombers planned to use Saad’s likely addition to play youngster Andrew McGrath through the midfield, the Blues would love the freedom to play Sam Docherty out of the centre.

Regardless of what is playing out elsewhere, Essendon has some thinking to do. But the club’s intelligent list boss Adrian Dodoro has been in this situation before.

Can he work another miracle? Only time will tell.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2017-how-essendon-can-still-meet-demands-for-jake-stringer-and-adam-saad/news-story/8c76a4878d365c14e1363dab28b6ca26

[GVGjr]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

Does pick 15 seem about right? Not great but not bad.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

Does pick 15 seem about right? Not great but not bad.

Pick 15 for me only works with us getting a player of a quality that you might trade 15 into 10.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

Pick 15? No, no and no.

We said an early first round pick. Then we said Pick 11. At what point do we stop moving the goal posts?

Talk of next year's first round doesn't excite me either. Every year we hear about the incoming "superdraft", which by the time it rolls around we hear about how it "drops off after pick 10". If Essendon acquire all 3 of their trade targets, I suspect it'd be a Pick 14-18 which once again is bloody ordinary compensation for a Pick 5/AA/Leading Goal Kicker/Premiership player.

Only way I consider 15 or next year's first is if they attach a young player to it, and that they won't do.

[Topdog]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

Pick 11 is unders. Pick 15 even more so but from the tigers point of view they couldn't trade away pick 17 and still get more points, no need to do 15 IMO

[GVGjr]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

Pick 15? No, no and no.

We said an early first round pick. Then we said Pick 11. At what point do we stop moving the goal posts?

Talk of next year's first round doesn't excite me either. Every year we hear about the incoming "superdraft", which by the time it rolls around we hear about how it "drops off after pick 10". If Essendon acquire all 3 of their trade targets, I suspect it'd be a Pick 14-18 which once again is bloody ordinary compensation for a Pick 5/AA/Leading Goal Kicker/Premiership player.

Only way I consider 15 or next year's first is if they attach a young player to it, and that they won't do.

It's all good to stand firm and if your happy to have Stringer back then that works however, if we genuinely don't believe it's in our best interest to have him at the club then we possibly need to be a bit flexible.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

It's all good to stand firm and if your happy to have Stringer back then that works however, if we genuinely don't believe it's in our best interest to have him at the club then we possibly need to be a bit flexible.

Let's say he doesn't get traded. There are still 2 options:

1 - He rebuilds his relationships with key individuals at the club and does what he says he was going to do elsewhere - turn it around.

2 - He sits the year out like McCarthy did.

Being flexible is exactly why we aren't taken seriously in negotiations. I will be livid if we cave to the best offer simply because we wanted to get rid of him. If that's the case, from the moment we announced Stringer was tradeable we've designed a 101 manual on how to shoot yourself in the foot.

I am more than happy for Jake to sit out 12 months if it means we stand firm to our word. We have no obligation to accept rubbish and in turn help strengthen a competitor.