Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

[Grantysghost]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Maybe it's worth nominating the alternative leadership group from the outside. Surely it's more accurate.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Hunter is definitely deserving. He constantly organises structure during a game.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic. We have a structure?

[Grantysghost]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Internally he's considered an on field leader. He has a good awareness of positioning and his direction is fantastic. I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic.

[GVGjr]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Yeah I know GVGJr. My concern is why didn't the club have a say? Is this how it is done every year or done by other clubs? The selections are appalling.

As an outsider looking in it hasn't worked. Maybe it was worth a try but I'd be surprised if there isn't a different group next year
The concern is that after an appalling 2017 season in terms of discipline, focus and attitude we've potentially allowed a popularity contest to select the leadership group. Everyone might be as happy as but results haven't measured up and the likes of Wood and JJ have had sub par seasons. Perhaps they can't handle the responsibility

[G-Mo77]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

As an outsider looking in it hasn't worked. Maybe it was worth a try but I'd be surprised if there isn't a different group next year
The concern is that after an appalling 2017 season in terms of discipline, focus and attitude we've potentially allowed a popularity contest to select the leadership group. Everyone might be as happy as but results haven't measured up and the likes of Wood and JJ have had sub par seasons. Perhaps they can't handle the responsibility

Wood did lead our team in 2016 and deserves credit for that. Playing on of our better defenders as a forward certainly hasn't helped. Another dumb position change from our club but we'll save that for another topic. I'm comfortable with Wood being selected as Captain.

JJ? I can't see it, don't know why or how it happened. Even if he's played out of position or a natural he just doesn't cut it.

Some of the "Cool Kids" seem to get the nod here and we've got the tail wagging the dog once again.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Wood did lead our team in 2016 and deserves credit for that. Playing on of our better defenders as a forward certainly hasn't helped. Another dumb position change from our club but we'll save that for another topic. I'm comfortable with Wood being selected as Captain.

JJ? I can't see it, don't know why or how it happened. Even if he's played out of position or a natural he just doesn't cut it.

Some of the "Cool Kids" seem to get the nod here and we've got the tail wagging the dog once again.

Wood should be cut some slack, given the losses of Morris MBoyd and Murphy from our defence plus the under performing JJ aand Biggs. Cordy has been our only experienced tall defender to do well and Williams Richards and Naughton will all be fine defenders.

[Bullies]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

The best leader we have had this year is Suckling and he is not even part of the leadership group. He is constantly giving direction down back to the young guys and despite him not being everyone's favorite he is certainly well respected by the players. I would expect him in the leadership group if he stays and doesn't go to the NFL.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

I must admit............and maybe Jake Stringer is just like the worst person ever, totally unredeemable and 100% toxic. Just a dumb, lazy, selfish, bogan, arrogant boofhead. Maybe he is.

But I just couldn't believe with our almost canonised leadership group of Bob Murphy, Luke Beveridge, Easton Wood etc. That things were ever let to get to that point that this incredible talent was booted out the door.

I know it's old ground, but it is also an indicator that perhaps our leadership group maybe was nowhere near as good and noble and strong as we thought they were/are?

I still can't listen to or watch Essendon games. It just shits me so much

[Mofra]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

As an outsider looking in it hasn't worked. Maybe it was worth a try but I'd be surprised if there isn't a different group next year
The concern is that after an appalling 2017 season in terms of discipline, focus and attitude we've potentially allowed a popularity contest to select the leadership group. Everyone might be as happy as but results haven't measured up and the likes of Wood and JJ have had sub par seasons. Perhaps they can't handle the responsibility

Pretty much every club in the competition elects their own leadership group.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Have often thought (and often asked out loud) who are the leaders... It's a far bigger issue for mine than the W/L record.

[josie]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Apart from some poor games in last month I think hunter’s form has been ok incl on field leadership, Bonti not up to his normal stellar heights but not bad (and possibly carrying an injury). Jj in back half would be better than as a forward but agree he does not seem to be a leader type. Wood I feel was just starting to find on field form and with that his confidence as a leader and then suffered a long term injury (bugger). Red not sure-very hard to determine without inside knowledge and again he has a long term injury. When he is in pitch I think those around him walk a bit taller as he does try and stick up for others and has some mongrel factor.

Perhaps our nice guy no d***head policy means we weed out the some of those with a bit of character, swagger and leadership traits?

Omitting picken and morris due to age and injury status....Libba and Macrae strike me as on field leaders with their actions and consist form when they are not injured. And Bont. Wallis’s form not consistent enough imo (granted this is mostly due to that horrific broken leg). Suckling much better this year but he still does not stick enough tackles for mine to be in leadership group.

Here’s one from left field-Cordy??

[Bornadog]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Pretty much every club in the competition elects their own leadership group.

That is what I thought as well

[GVGjr]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Pretty much every club in the competition elects their own leadership group.

Even when the playing group had a very poor season in terms of behaviour and attitude?

[Bornadog]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Even when the playing group had a very poor season in terms of behaviour and attitude?

When you say playing group, it's not the whole 45 players.

[Bullies]

Re: Bulldogs leadership group has 'let the team down': Johannisen

Apart from some poor games in last month I think hunter’s form has been ok incl on field leadership, Bonti not up to his normal stellar heights but not bad (and possibly carrying an injury). Jj in back half would be better than as a forward but agree he does not seem to be a leader type. Wood I feel was just starting to find on field form and with that his confidence as a leader and then suffered a long term injury (bugger). Red not sure-very hard to determine without inside knowledge and again he has a long term injury. When he is in pitch I think those around him walk a bit taller as he does try and stick up for others and has some mongrel factor.

Perhaps our nice guy no d***head policy means we weed out the some of those with a bit of character, swagger and leadership traits?

Omitting picken and morris due to age and injury status....Libba and Macrae strike me as on field leaders with their actions and consist form when they are not injured. And Bont. Wallis’s form not consistent enough imo (granted this is mostly due to that horrific broken leg). Suckling much better this year but he still does not stick enough tackles for mine to be in leadership group.

Here’s one from left field-Cordy??

I also think with time that McLean will be a leader and agree with Cordy.