“this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7374

    #31
    Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
    Y’all acting like Bev is some sort of normal coach and won’t have Treloar and Dunks coming off half back.
    I see a lot to like about Treloar spending time at half back as a runner/kicker.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    • Rocket Science
      Coaching Staff
      • Oct 2007
      • 4854

      #32
      Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

      Originally posted by Ozza
      I agree with this. We have to find the right balance.

      Having the best midfield players can mean you can really get ahold of the weaker sides, but against the best sides we will need to get the balance spot on. I actually think Dunkley can play a key role here and be used not necessarily as a tagger, but as a more defensively minded mid some weeks, either he or Libba depending on the opposition.
      Bevo playing Dunks as a stopper for much of the season would be an interesting wrinkle in the unresolved 'trade-me' tale ...

      Digressing, I'd add Jongy and his all-gas-no-brakes approach. Our mids are best in show when it's on their terms but we need to find alternate gears and looks for the inevitable phases when it isn't.
      BORDERLINE FLYING

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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 7704

        #33
        Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

        Originally posted by Rocket Science
        Bevo playing Dunks as a stopper for much of the season would be an interesting wrinkle in the unresolved 'trade-me' tale ...

        Digressing, I'd add Jongy and his all-gas-no-brakes approach. Our mids are best in show when it's on their terms but we need to find alternate gears and looks for the inevitable phases when it isn't.
        Yes Jongy is a great option for a stopper. Have we tried it before?

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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7704

          #34
          Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

          Originally posted by mjp
          I see a lot to like about Treloar spending time at half back as a runner/kicker.
          Who makes way for him? JJ/Duryea/Crozier/Daniel/Wood/Williams?

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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7374

            #35
            Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
            Who makes way for him? JJ/Duryea/Crozier/Daniel/Wood/Williams?
            There are spots in the back 7 available:

            Locks: Duryea, Williams, Daniel, Keath.

            That's it for me. JJ spends more and more time forward, Crozier's back end of the year was average at best, Wood played 1x good game all season...etc. Yes, the '7' needs another tall (Gardner? Young?) but also needs 2x runners. I think the Treloar to HB option makes more sense than the Treloar to outside mid option...I think he will play mostly inside but half back is certainly a viable option for 1-2 stints per half which also creates some mid time for the log-jam of inside mids we now have.
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • Rocket Science
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2007
              • 4854

              #36
              Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
              Yes Jongy is a great option for a stopper. Have we tried it before?
              Given his luck with injury, not sure we've tried anything long enough with Jongy for it to constitute a pattern, he showed some handy signs last season though.

              Not so much in a negating role necessarily but as someone who can step in and help alter the complexion of midfield battles, give opponents something to think about, and give us more than one club in the bag so to speak.
              BORDERLINE FLYING

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11844

                #37
                Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

                Originally posted by mjp
                There are spots in the back 7 available:

                Locks: Duryea, Williams, Daniel, Keath.

                That's it for me. JJ spends more and more time forward, Crozier's back end of the year was average at best, Wood played 1x good game all season...etc. Yes, the '7' needs another tall (Gardner? Young?) but also needs 2x runners. I think the Treloar to HB option makes more sense than the Treloar to outside mid option...I think he will play mostly inside but half back is certainly a viable option for 1-2 stints per half which also creates some mid time for the log-jam of inside mids we now have.
                We also saw how much our rebound was stifled when Daniel was sat on. Not the worst suggestion ever.
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • Ozza
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6402

                  #38
                  Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

                  Originally posted by Rocket Science
                  Bevo playing Dunks as a stopper for much of the season would be an interesting wrinkle in the unresolved 'trade-me' tale ...

                  Digressing, I'd add Jongy and his all-gas-no-brakes approach. Our mids are best in show when it's on their terms but we need to find alternate gears and looks for the inevitable phases when it isn't.
                  I think Bevo needs to coach for 2021, and not think about what may make Dunks stay or go.

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                  • dog town
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1914

                    #39
                    Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

                    Originally posted by mjp
                    I see a lot to like about Treloar spending time at half back as a runner/kicker.
                    I would say it is very likely to happen based on little things slipping out from training/press conferences and the skillset that Treloar brings. I don’t really see an alternate role for him outside the centre square and he needs one.

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                    • AshMac
                      WOOF Member
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 1712

                      #40
                      Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

                      Originally posted by Rocket Science
                      Bevo playing Dunks as a stopper for much of the season would be an interesting wrinkle in the unresolved 'trade-me' tale ...

                      Digressing, I'd add Jongy and his all-gas-no-brakes approach. Our mids are best in show when it's on their terms but we need to find alternate gears and looks for the inevitable phases when it isn't.
                      Spot on! Look amazing - AMAZING - when we’re skiing down hill, when the going gets tough we need to learn to neutralise, stem the bleeding and turn around momentum.
                      The dam wall has busted!

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13237

                        #41
                        Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        There are spots in the back 7 available:

                        Locks: Duryea, Williams, Daniel, Keath.

                        That's it for me. JJ spends more and more time forward, Crozier's back end of the year was average at best, Wood played 1x good game all season...etc. Yes, the '7' needs another tall (Gardner? Young?) but also needs 2x runners. I think the Treloar to HB option makes more sense than the Treloar to outside mid option...I think he will play mostly inside but half back is certainly a viable option for 1-2 stints per half which also creates some mid time for the log-jam of inside mids we now have.
                        Well at least he still played, unlike Duryea.

                        I get the Duryea inclusion he can actually defend but he does go to ground too easy. He's a solid player but I want more. Crozier's timing was off badly at the back end of last year but going on past performances for the club Crozier's 2019 was dynamite. Plus he has Duryea covered in the air. Backing him in over Duryea to recapture that form and lock in a spot.
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          #42
                          Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

                          Crozier's form dropped off when he was moved forward for a few games.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21836

                            #43
                            Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

                            Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                            Crozier's form dropped off when he was moved forward for a few games.
                            I think you're right, though he was also pretty ordinary at times prior to and after that. His timing seemed to be out of whack and his high and long kicking counterproductive.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44676

                              #44
                              Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

                              Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                              Crozier's form dropped off when he was moved forward for a few games.
                              Yep, Coming back off a couple of injury challenges and then moved forward with little reward. Ideally we need to have him off half back where he plays his best football for the team.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • dog town
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 1914

                                #45
                                Re: “this is now the best midfield in the competition”: Dal santo

                                Crozier was moved forward because it was the only way to try and keep him in the side. He was playing poor footy for quite a bit of season 2020 and we had better options at the time. It may be his best spot but coaches will do what’s best for the team.

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