Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

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  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 8856

    Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

    Hulk Angry.... Hulk SMASH!!!



    WESTERN Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge has urged the AFL not to force clubs to alter their training programs because of the now-infamous boxing session at Hawthorn.

    The AFL investigated a training incident in June which left Hawks forward Mitchell Lewis concussed following a sparring session with teammate Jacob Koschitzke.

    Hawthorn were cleared of any wrongdoing, with WorkSafe satisfied with the club's response and not taking any further action.

    Clubs will be allowed to continue boxing training but the AFL has placed guidelines on how it can happen, which were released only minutes after Beveridge addressed the media ahead of the Bulldogs' game against Adelaide on Saturday.


    "The AFL should never be in the business of telling clubs how they can train and how they can't train," Beveridge said on Thursday.
    Mitch Wallis during a Western Bulldogs boxing session at Whitten Oval in 2019. Picture: Getty Images

    "It's really important that the messages out of AFL House aren't too directive and too arbitrary around what you can and can't do.

    "Our boxing coach does a magnificent job with our players one-on-one. There's a lot of sparring with mitts.

    "(Boxing's) a really important part of our program with the conditioning aspect.

    "Just because one club gets it wrong from a risk management point of view doesn't mean that every other club all of a sudden becomes vulnerable and needs to eliminate the risk.

    Until we get something formal, we won't even take much notice

    - Luke Beveridge

    "We don't spar player-to-player but we haven't been told what we can and can't do. Until we get something formal, we won't even take much notice."

    The AFL has banned sparring and combat between teammates and club staff but boxing will be allowed to continue if sessions are carefully managed by qualified individuals.

    It comes after the AFL updated its health protocols ahead of this season with players now having to miss at least 12 days of training and playing if they suffer a concussion.

    "These new measures have immediate application and are part of the ongoing efforts of the AFL and clubs to protect the health and safety of the players," AFL executive Andrew Dillon said.

    "With the introduction of these new measures, the risk of this sort of incident occurring in the future will be significantly reduced."
  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65597

    #2
    Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

    I was at training one day getting a tour of the facility with Rocket, and Barry Hall was sparring in the ring - wow, you wouldn't want to be in there with him.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • EasternWest
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2009
      • 9927

      #3
      Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

      Originally posted by bornadog
      I was at training one day getting a tour of the facility with Rocket, and Barry Hall was sparring in the ring - wow, you wouldn't want to be in there with him.
      I always make it my aim to not be caged or directly in front of a person trying to punch me in the head. So correct, I wouldn't want to be in there with him.

      That being said I've never actually lost a fight. I'm always too long gone to win or lose.
      "It's over. It's all over."

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 10872

        #4
        Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

        Originally posted by bornadog
        I was at training one day getting a tour of the facility with Rocket, and Barry Hall was sparring in the ring - wow, you wouldn't want to be in there with him.
        Twodogs would be game I reckon.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65597

          #5
          Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

          Originally posted by Axe Man
          Twodogs would be game I reckon.
          If you have been close to Barry and watch him punching the training gloves, I would doubt it, but then again
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • westdog54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6683

            #6
            Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            Twodogs would be game I reckon.
            The Twodogs I know would be well aware of his limitations.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 65597

              #7
              Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

              Originally posted by westdog54
              The Twodogs I know would be well aware of his limitations.
              Especially being half Barry's weight
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7241

                #8
                Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

                Back to the OP, Bevo isn't wrong here.

                The AFL should be able to issue a 'we have been advised that...' memo about any kind of training method/supplement/medical procedure etc but isn't it up to the clubs to hire their own people to run their own programs?
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21416

                  #9
                  Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

                  Originally posted by mjp
                  Back to the OP, Bevo isn't wrong here.

                  The AFL should be able to issue a 'we have been advised that...' memo about any kind of training method/supplement/medical procedure etc but isn't it up to the clubs to hire their own people to run their own programs?
                  It's typical overreach. Unless there's more of these incidents than what we're aware of then it's just the AFL showing itself to be doing something without really doing anything constructive.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • Mitcha
                    Draftee
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 678

                    #10
                    Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

                    No sparring at training but AFL happy for high profile players to throw elbows back on game day.

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 17836

                      #11
                      Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

                      Originally posted by Mitcha
                      No sparring at training but AFL happy for high profile players to throw elbows back on game day.
                      Bingo.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • Twodogs
                        Administrator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27646

                        #12
                        Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        Back to the OP, Bevo isn't wrong here.

                        The AFL should be able to issue a 'we have been advised that...' memo about any kind of training method/supplement/medical procedure etc but isn't it up to the clubs to hire their own people to run their own programs?
                        I'll get my big mate Barry to beat you up!
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Twodogs
                          Administrator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27646

                          #13
                          Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

                          Originally posted by westdog54
                          The Twodogs I know would be well aware of his limitations.
                          I'd take him.

                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21416

                            #14
                            Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

                            Originally posted by westdog54
                            The Twodogs I know would be well aware of his limitations.
                            But that shouldn't detract from his ability to talk about how he might hypothetically beat up Barry Hall.....!
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10019

                              #15
                              Re: Don't tell us what we can do: Bevo's threat to AFL over boxing ban

                              Seriously Bevo. You don’t have to die on every hill.
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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