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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 43913

    #76
    Re: Club Statement

    Wilson certainly has Bevo in her sights and is drawing a long bow on many of her observations. Wilson also speculated if Chris Grant challenges Bevo enough. She isn't objective but the only thing that rings true is what the club mentioned in their statement that Bevo needed some support.
    Suggesting that he should have been fined for forcibly pushing back on an overly full of himself journo is ridiculous. He apologised for his conduct and that was more than good enough for me.
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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18743

      #77
      Re: Club Statement

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Wilson certainly has Bevo in her sights and is drawing a long bow on many of her observations. Wilson also speculated if Chris Grant challenges Bevo enough. She isn't objective but the only thing that rings true is what the club mentioned in their statement that Bevo needed some support.
      Suggesting that he should have been fined for forcibly pushing back on an overly full of himself journo is ridiculous. He apologised for his conduct and that was more than good enough for me.
      Has anyone any clue why Hunter was initially dropped. If the club won’t tell us anything, maybe we need the media to find out so the fans are informed.

      Dictatorships despise the media xD
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14802

        #78
        Re: Club Statement

        Originally posted by Grantysghost

        Has anyone any clue why Hunter was initially dropped. If the club won’t tell us anything, maybe we need the media to find out so the fans are informed.

        Dictatorships despise the media xD
        He had what, 13 touches last weekend and didn't get much time on the wing?
        In a way it sounds like we had a plan without him and at the last minute Hunter was shoehorned into JJ's role.

        Perhaps he's just not in good touch right now? His performance on the weekend suggests that may be the case.
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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65619

          #79
          Re: Club Statement

          Originally posted by Mofra
          He had what, 13 touches last weekend and didn't get much time on the wing?
          In a way it sounds like we had a plan without him and at the last minute Hunter was shoehorned into JJ's role.

          Perhaps he's just not in good touch right now? His performance on the weekend suggests that may be the case.
          He was also struggling in the Lions match
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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18743

            #80
            Re: Club Statement

            Originally posted by Mofra
            He had what, 13 touches last weekend and didn't get much time on the wing?
            In a way it sounds like we had a plan without him and at the last minute Hunter was shoehorned into JJ's role.

            Perhaps he's just not in good touch right now? His performance on the weekend suggests that may be the case.
            I find it a little odd really. He’s a proven performer and former best and fairest who has been a little off over pre season and he’s dumped for round 1?

            I’d be backing him form wise with his credits, especially over some that were in the side.

            I thought covid but then why would Bevo be apoplectic if that leaked, it’s a pretty valid reason and Hunter would be ok with it I’m sure.

            Maybe there’s an issue for him off-field, that seems to make the most sense considering Bevo’s reaction to the leak but of course is pure speculation. We know he had issues prior when he stacked his car due to trying to become a parent. Having been down that road it does break you down.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18743

              #81
              Re: Club Statement

              Originally posted by bornadog
              He was also struggling in the Lions match
              He wasn’t great but had a comparable game to R.Smith in a similar position.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 8845

                #82
                Re: Club Statement

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                I find it a little odd really. He’s a proven performer and former best and fairest who has been a little off over pre season and he’s dumped for round 1?

                I’d be backing him form wise with his credits, especially over some that were in the side.

                I thought covid but then why would Bevo be apoplectic if that leaked, it’s a pretty valid reason and Hunter would be ok with it I’m sure.

                Maybe there’s an issue for him off-field, that seems to make the most sense considering Bevo’s reaction to the leak but of course is pure speculation. We know he had issues prior when he stacked his car due to trying to become a parent. Having been down that road it does break you down.
                I wonder how much of Bevo's outburst was a delayed reaction to Morris's leaking of Gardner's omission from the GF? Bevo didn't really speak about it at all leading up to or post GF.
                Morris's mention of Hunter may have just reopened that original wound.
                Last edited by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot; 22-03-2022, 09:54 AM.

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                • mjp
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7249

                  #83
                  Re: Club Statement

                  Originally posted by Grantysghost
                  He’s a proven performer and former best and fairest who has been a little off over pre season and he’s dumped for round 1?

                  I’d be backing him form wise with his credits, especially over some that were in the side.
                  You can't implement change unless you exclude those who the playing group see as untouchable.

                  My concern is that this means some things are NOT going well...which Bevo had been addressing without success...final shot across the bow of the 'players group' ship - exclude Hunter. As in, you don't think I'm serious? I'll show you how serious I am.

                  This was almost the perfect storm of such a scenario (in that Hunter was given a last minute reprieve that was easily explainable by the match committee) HOWEVER he then went out there and didn't respond in the way you would have hoped...so NOW what do you do.

                  Couple that with Bevo's post game reaction which was that of a coach who knows things aren't the way they should be.

                  I'm actually a little worried.
                  What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                  • azabob
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15129

                    #84
                    Re: Club Statement

                    Originally posted by mjp

                    This was almost the perfect storm of such a scenario (in that Hunter was given a last minute reprieve that was easily explainable by the match committee) HOWEVER he then went out there and didn't respond in the way you would have hoped...so NOW what do you do.

                    Couple that with Bevo's post game reaction which was that of a coach who knows things aren't the way they should be.

                    I'm actually a little worried.
                    Double down and drop Hunter.
                    More of an In Bruges guy?

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18743

                      #85
                      Re: Club Statement

                      Originally posted by mjp
                      You can't implement change unless you exclude those who the playing group see as untouchable.

                      My concern is that this means some things are NOT going well...which Bevo had been addressing without success...final shot across the bow of the 'players group' ship - exclude Hunter. As in, you don't think I'm serious? I'll show you how serious I am.

                      This was almost the perfect storm of such a scenario (in that Hunter was given a last minute reprieve that was easily explainable by the match committee) HOWEVER he then went out there and didn't respond in the way you would have hoped...so NOW what do you do.

                      Couple that with Bevo's post game reaction which was that of a coach who knows things aren't the way they should be.

                      I'm actually a little worried.
                      So you're thinking maybe post the GF loss we implemented some changes over the off season that Hunter didn't adapt to very well?

                      Maybe a more defensive mindset Brayshaw style?

                      Agree re worry, it wasn't necessarily the target of Luke's anger I was focussed on it was the non sensical nature of what he was saying.
                      The next two games will be very revealing.

                      Both tough assignments and we are 0-3 this season so far counting pre season form which appears important to the selectors.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18743

                        #86
                        Re: Club Statement

                        Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                        I wonder how much of Bevo's outburst was a delayed reaction to Morris's leaking of Gardner's omission from the GF? Bevo didn't really speak about it at all leading up to or post GF.
                        Morris's mention of Hunter may have just reopened that original wound.
                        It's a valid point as it did seem to be a big part of his unrest.

                        I think Morris also reported on a Demons' player omission in a final (Smith?) so I'm not sure if it was a totally accurate reflection of the situation when he said he was targeting the club.

                        The leak is the issue, and Morris not playing by the boys club code of ethics.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 17847

                          #87
                          Re: Club Statement

                          Well now I’m really worried.
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                          • Jeanette54
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1224

                            #88
                            Re: Club Statement

                            Am I the only one who sees our trite and corporate speak apology as virtue signalling ? These are the sort of thing you issue to "protect the brand".
                            The truth will set you free,
                            but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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                            • Scraggers
                              Premiership Moderator
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 3540

                              #89
                              Re: Club Statement

                              I've watched Bevo's presser a number of times. I've also watched the media double-down on Bevo and his "outburst" over the weekend (and again last night). And I've read this thread plus a whole lot of social media palaver.

                              Now I might be the only person who thinks this, but I don't see what Bevo did was wrong. He called out a grub, who through other means was proven that he was a grub, therore (I believe) Bevo was justified in what he said.

                              Only one comment in the transcript is personal towards the journalist (I refuse to name him anymore), the rest relates to they way he did his job. Yet every comment from Carro, Hutchy, Lyon et al. is personal. "Lose the mustache" ... "Show some respect" ... "Unprofessional" ... "No scruples".

                              Why is there a double standard here? And why are we (as supporters) not backing our coach? I agree with a post earlier on in this thread ... the difference between Melbourne's defense of their coach and ours is light-years away.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 43913

                                #90
                                Re: Club Statement

                                Originally posted by Scraggers
                                I've watched Bevo's presser a number of times. I've also watched the media double-down on Bevo and his "outburst" over the weekend (and again last night). And I've read this thread plus a whole lot of social media palaver.

                                Now I might be the only person who thinks this, but I don't see what Bevo did was wrong. He called out a grub, who through other means was proven that he was a grub, therore (I believe) Bevo was justified in what he said.

                                Only one comment in the transcript is personal towards the journalist (I refuse to name him anymore), the rest relates to they way he did his job. Yet every comment from Carro, Hutchy, Lyon et al. is personal. "Lose the mustache" ... "Show some respect" ... "Unprofessional" ... "No scruples".

                                Why is there a double standard here? And why are we (as supporters) not backing our coach? I agree with a post earlier on in this thread ... the difference between Melbourne's defense of their coach and ours is light-years away.
                                I think he was right to have a crack to Morris but labeling him a gutter journalist, as much as he really is, didn't need to be said.
                                Questioning his integrity is spot on but labeling him is what the others in the media have taken exception to.

                                I don't think the club should have paid any fine, Bevo's response a day later was more than sufficient.

                                As for the media backing their own, I hope they know we have long memories.
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